Is Jeep tracking my mileage and everything through U-Connect?

[TheRealStreetcommander]

This thread is nauseating with the diatribe from the anti-4th amendment crowd. Stop defending yourselves and read about expressed consent. Packaging a poison pill in a “free” product and then pointing to fine print is not expressed consent. None of this is even close to ethical.

To answer the actual question from the OP, yes, you can stop it. Stopping transmission of your personal property can be done by disabling the physical transmission mechanisms. Stopping the collection locally can be done also, but requires locating and disabling the programming code routines which are responsible for the actions. The former is easier if you are okay doing without the “free” services. The latter is much more difficult and requires a specialist.

I would believe locating and damaging the transceivers is the most logical and practical method to prevent transmission. Anyone with 101 level experience in discrete electronics could help do this.

From the clown responses and empty rationalizations coming from some of this forums most frequent contributors, I would not post your means or methods should you be successful. They would likely petition the thread be deleted and surreptitiously turn you in.

This is a real problem and folks should take it seriously.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Go for it - it's your vehicle. Why should anyone else care?

Welcome to the current world. Don't like it? Change it. Or buy a different vehicle or never say "ok" to any screen you see.

Apparently only a few care about it. It's been hashed to death all over the internet and it still exists and people still keep going with it.
Kill your cell phone (totally destroy it or someone will recover something), go back to a land line, avoid any use of any computers, use VPN and keep switching ISPs, do whatever.

Stopping the collection locally can be done also, but requires locating and disabling the programming code routines which are responsible for the actions. The former is easier if you are okay doing without the “free” services. The latter is much more difficult and requires a specialist.

Good luck finding such a person.............. you could make a small fortune. Sounds like a business opportunity.

 

[Mr._Bill]

The easiest way to stop the transmission of data is to not buy a vehicle with a cellular equipped head unit.

The car computers collect and retain a large amount of data. It doesn't go anywhere, unless they have the ability to transmit, or someone connects and collects it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The easiest way to stop the transmission of data is to not buy a vehicle with a cellular equipped head unit.

The car computers collect and retain a large amount of data. It doesn't go anywhere, unless they have the ability to transmit, or someone connects and collects it.

And as I've posted a few times before - it has saved people from expensive law suits and so on - when they could get the data to prove they weren't at fault - not speeding, exactly what direction they were going, how fast and so on. It's come to the aid of more than one person.

If I do something stupid and get caught - either by cop or by technology - that's on me.

 

[Throwback]

"This is a real problem and folks should take it seriously."

I agree, but survey after survey -- as well as real world observation -- shows that fewer than 10% of the population cares. It's sad and frustrating, to be sure. I keep hoping a new generation will rebel, but alas the more "tech-savvy" the kids get the less they seem to care about their privacy.

The latest thing might wake some people up: apparently GM is selling collected driving data to LexisNexis, who is selling it to insurance companies. Data collected by OnStar, charting driving behavior, is being used by insurance companies to raise people's rates.

Louis Rossman explains it on YouTube:



"And as I've posted a few times before - it has saved people from expensive law suits and so on - when they could get the data to prove they weren't at fault - not speeding, exactly what direction they were going, how fast and so on. It's come to the aid of more than one person."

Fine, so long as people sign on to this monitoring with specified, affirmative consent -- not some bullshit weasel language buried in a user agreement. Any sharing of this data with outside parties for profit should be disclosed -- and approved -- on a case-by-case basis, and the customer should get a cut of that money. Any request for such data by government agencies should be shared with the customer before such requests are granted. I agree with you that no one seems to care, but that's just sad.

 

[Gvsukids]

"This is a real problem and folks should take it seriously."

I agree, but survey after survey -- as well as real world observation -- shows that fewer than 10% of the population cares. It's sad and frustrating, to be sure. I keep hoping a new generation will rebel, but alas the more "tech-savvy" the kids get the less they seem to care about their privacy.

The latest thing might wake some people up: apparently GM is selling collected driving data to LexisNexis, who is selling it to insurance companies. Data collected by OnStar, charting driving behavior, is being used by insurance companies to raise people's rates.

Louis Rossman explains it on YouTube:



"And as I've posted a few times before - it has saved people from expensive law suits and so on - when they could get the data to prove they weren't at fault - not speeding, exactly what direction they were going, how fast and so on. It's come to the aid of more than one person."

Fine, so long as people sign on to this monitoring with specified, affirmative consent -- not some bullshit weasel language buried in a user agreement. Any sharing of this data with outside parties for profit should be disclosed -- and approved -- on a case-by-case basis, and the customer should get a cut of that money. Any request for such data by government agencies should be shared with the customer before such requests are granted. I agree with you that no one seems to care, but that's just sad.

Quoting a response with quotes, doesn't take the previous quote, or alert the poster that you have quoted them.

 

[Gvsukids]

Why worry about what man can do? There'll be worse results on judgment day.

 

[Hootbro]

It is death by a thousand paper cuts to civil liberties and having/keeping a right to anonymity.

I am lucky to remember a time where it was plausible to have a wallet full of cash and can travel coast to coast across this country and not show ID and not have any electronic trail of it.

My epiphany that those days were over was in the early 2000's and getting a then coveted first round non Google employee general public Gmail account during the extended Beta testing days and realizing my email data was the product.

 

[WILDHOBO]

It is death by a thousand paper cuts to civil liberties and having/keeping a right to anonymity.

I am lucky to remember a time were it was plausible to have a wallet full of cash and travel coast to coast across this country and not show ID and not have any electronic trail of it.

My epiphany those days were over was in the early 2000's and getting a then coveted first round non Google employee general public Gmail account during the extended Beta testing days and realizing my email data was the product.

I also have one of the early accounts from 2001. Do you still have yours? It drives me crazy when people claim they don’t have the freedom to not be tracked. You have an absolute choice to not use these products, including your cellular Jeep if you have the 8.4”. Just don’t choose to buy these products. Why use up all your energy complaining about something you chose to buy and use? Don’t like Facebook, don’t use it. You don’t think this “free” forum is tracking your content? It’s how they make money. But you ultimately have COMPLETE control. Stop using what you’re complaining about. No one is forcing you.

 

[Hootbro]

I also have one of the early accounts from 2001. Do you still have yours?

Yup, still have it. It was back when you had to be invited knowing a Google employee that extended the invite. Then after about 6 months, you were given like 4 invites to then give out to other people. There was a brief time of there being a black market of people selling their invites.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Yup, still have it. It was back when you had to be invited knowing a Google employee that extended the invite. Then after about 6 months, you were given like 4 invites to then give out to other people. There was a brief time of there being a black market of people selling their invites.

I still have mine as well. I’m second tier, meaning I got one of the 4 invites from someone.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It is death by a thousand paper cuts to civil liberties and having/keeping a right to anonymity.

I am lucky to remember a time were it was plausible to have a wallet full of cash and travel coast to coast across this country and not show ID and not have any electronic trail of it.

My epiphany those days were over was in the early 2000's and getting a then coveted first round non Google employee general public Gmail account during the extended Beta testing days and realizing my email data was the product.

Their server bots harvest key words and phrases. It was obvious from the first time I used gmail. Say something about a "game" (and I'm NOT a gamer at all, no games on my phone or pc) and just mentioning someone doing something with a game I ended up seeing ads for games while searching and browsing. Similar for FB - mention certain key words, and suddenly you see things related.
It's horrible with Microsoft as well - even to the point of them tracking what you do in other browsers. Did some Jeep info searching in Chrome and now when I open Edge, it's loaded with Jeep ads. They must cross-search browser cookies or the caches.

And of course - forums like this are searched by bots. A friend used to run an AMC Eagle forum - some members were really trashing eBay in a couple of threads. He got cease and desist letters and threats from eBay attorneys - remove the posts, stop, or else.
WTF?
BOTS
Even Hollyweed "stars" have management that does similar - they look for posts in forums, articles and so on using BOTS and will go after anything they deem as "damaging to reputation" and so on.

 

[TheRealStreetcommander]

It drives me crazy when people claim they don’t have the freedom to not be tracked. You have an absolute choice to not use these products, including your cellular Jeep if you have the 8.4”. Just don’t choose to buy these products. Why use up all your energy complaining about something you chose to buy and use? Don’t like Facebook, don’t use it. You don’t think this “free” forum is tracking your content? It’s how they make money. But you ultimately have COMPLETE control. Stop using what you’re complaining about. No one is forcing you.

Straw-man argument. Although I respect the sentiment.

History is full of these false justifications over the past 50 years. Just sticking to cars:

“So buy a car without seatbelts then…
…without fuel injection
…without ABS
…without stability control
…without airbags
…without the seatbelt door chime
…without a catalytic converter
…which is not an EV
…which can’t be pushed updates (OTA)
…that can’t tattle…

Wether any of these are good or bad has nothing to do with it. They were all slowly and insidiously pushed by the unelected administrative state. The whole time, mostly well intentioned people said, “relax, your being dramatic, you have full control”

To believe there can be no free, prosperous, and rationale middle ground between a robot serf of the state, and an uncontacted tribe living in the Amazon is a false contrast. Serfdom is the clear design intent within all of this.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I guess a person can always move to China where they have absolute and complete control over their own lives.


I suspect there's a good market for bomb shelters and "Patriot foods" that last for years.........going by what I see here.

 

[TheRealStreetcommander]

I guess a person can always move to China where they have absolute and complete control over their own lives.

I and a few hundred million Chinamen would probably challenge your view on this.

The CCP is a few steps ahead of the US in terms of authoritarianism. We are discussing this so we can start going in the opposite direction of the CCP.

As for the food and bunker talk, that too we want to lessen the future need for.

Let’s be careful not to politicize essential human liberty. The Mods will hijack and delete this thread if people start getting a buttburn.

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