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[JeepCares]

I'm just curious for the manual tranny lovers, I get it. But have you read the recall? The pressure plate is literally bursting into flames, leaving vehicles disabled and in some case on fire. FCA has published no resolution for this issue. Are you just assuming they get it fixed??

Chronology:

• On November 27, 2019, the FCA US LLC (“FCA US”) Vehicle Safety and Regulatory Compliance (“VSRC”) the organization opened an investigation as a result of customer inputs for fire incidents on 2018-2020 MY Jeep Wrangler and the 2020 MY Jeep Gladiator vehicles.

• On December 10, 2019, FCA US VSRC investigators and FCA US Powertrain engineers traveled to the FCA US Toledo assembly plant to study the transmission and clutch assembly process.

• On December 17, 2019, FCA US VSRC conducted a scene examination of a vehicle fire that appeared to be related to the transmission.

• On January 22, 2020, FCA US VSRC reviewed a warranty returned transmission and clutch with catastrophic damage.

• On February 5, 2020, FCA US VSRC Materials Engineering Lab completed an analysis of the transmission components and determined the clutch pressure plate reached 1100-degrees Celsius demonstrating the pressure plate is a competent ignition source. The supplier duplicated the failed pressure plate demonstrating the pressure plate was not a fire effect.

• In early February 2020, FCA US VSRC conducted packaging studies and reviewed supplier records to understand the history of the transmission and clutch failures.

• On February 10, 2020, the clutch supplier conducted testing to reproduce pressure plate failure due to exposure to high heat.

• As of February 20, 2020, FCA US is aware of 13 CAIRS and 13 field reports related to this issue.

• As of February 20, 2020, FCA US is aware of 35 warranty claims related to this issue.

• As of February 20, 2020, FCA US is aware of one minor injury related to this issue.

• On February 25, 2020, FCA US determined, through the Vehicle Regulations Committee, to conduct a voluntary safety recall of the affected vehicles.

• The remedy for this recall is still under development.

If you are referring to the W12 recall, there is a repair available.
Any new manual transmission builds are not affected. If you have any additional questions feel free to reach out.

Kaitlin
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[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

If you are referring to the W12 recall, there is a repair available.
Any new manual transmission builds are not affected. If you have any additional questions feel free to reach out.

Kaitlin
Jeep Cares

THANK YOU!!

To quote myself, "yes, I do assume they have a fix".

 

[DannieB]

Your chronology goes through February. It is now June.

First, the chronology that is important to me is that FCA stopped taking orders for MT about the time the recall was made public, then resumed taking orders several weeks later. So, yes, I do assume they have a fix.

Second, as your chronology shows, only a small number of Gladiators actually had their pressure plates "literally bursting into flames". Perhaps there are more by now, but you would think some forum members would have let us know if they had it happen to them or someone they know.

Third, there actually have been members who reported parts being replaced in their Gladiators from this recall, so there is something being done by FCA, even if the complete remedy is still under development. But we don't know.

So, yes, I want a manual transmission Gladiator. Jeep has always sold MT versions of CJs and Wranglers, and I expect they will continue that for at least the next few years. Which means they are going to solve the problem, if they have not already.

I’m wondering if these clutch’s are failing under NORMAL driving conditions or if they are either
1) inexperienced MT drivers (or)
2) towing or hauling heavy loads and over working their MT (?)

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

I’m wondering if these clutch’s are failing under NORMAL driving conditions or if they are either
1) inexperienced MT drivers (or)
2) towing or hauling heavy loads and over working their MT (?)

I have wondered the same.

 

[DannieB]

I have wondered the same.

I just can’t see Jeep putting out crap clutches. They’ve been in the business longer than most. I’m hoping their just riding it too hard. I understand the safety issues that are coming up but damn. That’s REALLY HOT for normal driving conditions.

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

I don’t know if anyone can help me with some information but I’m all out
Of options and just about ready to bail on a Gladiator purchase.

In case you missed it (I did), here is some good news:

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...-toledo-plant-to-meet-gladiator-demand.31747/

 

[z0lt3c]

Your chronology goes through February. It is now June.

This is the extent of the chronology that FCA has published.

Using some information provided by @JeepCares and cross referencing on oemdtc.com I see they submitted a report to the NHSTA on 3/12 and that report stated that dealers would be notified of a resolution beginning 4/22.

From the NHSTA Report:

"The recall population includes all 2020 MY Jeep Gladiator Vehicles equipped with a
manual transmission. The suspect period began on December 21, 2018 when
production of vehicles with a manual transmission began, and was concluded on
February 20, 2020. "

Do you care what they did to fix it?

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

"The recall population includes all 2020 MY Jeep Gladiator Vehicles equipped with a
manual transmission. The suspect period began on December 21, 2018 when
production of vehicles with a manual transmission began, and was concluded on
February 20, 2020. "

Then I should be good, since mine is to be built in July.

Do you care what they did to fix it?

Yes, but I don't know if there is a way to find out.

 

[DannieB]

In case you missed it (I did), here is some good news:

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...-toledo-plant-to-meet-gladiator-demand.31747/

Thank you! I JUST got my build sheet! 10 weeks later!

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