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- #16
Very excellent point about the GAWR. That lends even more credibility to the idea that Jeep will likely have no choice but to significantly reduce payload and towing numbers on the 4xe. It's really going to be interesting to see how they handle this. Or maybe they'll do what Ford always does and sprinkle magic fairy dust on their suspension and increase all the max numbers without changing a single part.They'd need new axles for that. My GAWR combined is 6850 lbs. The gross vehicle rating (gvwr) is just a reflection of the weakest link. The axles would be the weakest link throwing on 800 lbs of 4xe equipment. My GVWR is 6250, so 800 extra pounds and maxing out the axles would mean my payload would drop 200 lbs. Still better than a tacoma though.
Your electric range cost comparison also needs to include cost of maintenance along with a multiplier for renewables. If you have solar panels that will shift the cost around. Diesels take more maintenance and require DEF while electric motors don't even need oil changes. Regardless, you make a great point that the electricity isn't very beneficial.
For me, adding 800 lbs is too compromising off road. It'll make every obstacle that much harder, put more stress on every component, and add new modes of failure.
Electric motors don't get oil changes, they get new brushes periodically which is even more expensive. My father is a forklift mechanic and a huge chunk of the machines he has to repair daily are the electric ones. They're just as problematic as the fossil fuel powered ones if not more so. On the electric machines, motors fail, wiring gets cut, connections become corroded, batteries are constantly coming up with bad cells and need replacements, etc. Electric doesn't solve any issues.
I'm not following you on the payload issue. If your GVWR is 6,250 right now then your payload is in the 1,000ish ballpark, right? If you put 800 lbs. on your truck then your payload would drop TO 200 lbs. remaining. Is that what you meant to type? I think this illustrates the dilemma that Jeep has on their hands. You can only play with numbers so long until hardware has to start changing.
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