JT vs JL ride quality

[Mightytalldude]

No JL has multirate or multistage springs from the factory. They are all single rate. They are soft at any point in the travel though. If you were comparing like models, ie rubicon to rubicon or sport to sport, they'd ride pretty similar on road with the wheelbase being the biggest difference. Get into rougher roads and big bumps and the goofy pinion dive of the ram copied JT suspension gets jerkey. They all ride great compared to a yj or a tj or even a JK. The longer factory control arms are akin to a high quality mid arm lift on a TJ.

Sorry not multi stage, softer spring rate on JLU. (2)Sport S stock springs, JLU left, JT right. When both were stock, the cush ride went to the JLU hands down. The JLU sits 1" lower compared to a JT.

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[RudeJeepin]

I blame Jeep for using weak coils. My 2023 Rubicon EcoDiesel with the red shocks has a squishy suspension and it still bottoms out in certain situations. I'm sure it's better than your factory setup, but I bet it's not leaps and bounds better. I wonder if Clayton has a higher spring rate? If so, I would go back with Fox shocks if I knew the springs could support the load better.

The Clayton 1/2" springs are supposed to be a little heavier rate. They are also just slightly longer. I measured roughly 3/4" front lift, right after install. I need to remeasure and see if it settled.
My wife's JLURD has the red shocks and it bottoms the front end worse than my JTRD did with the stock springs and fox shocks. Both Jeeps are almost identical options wise. Both had plastic bumpers.

When the wife gets home from her sister's, I need to double check and see if hers has the same front springs I took out of the Gladiator. I'll also measure the front lift on the Gladiator.

Took me a bit but I checked. The 21JLURD has 622 front springs and the 22JTRD had 376 front springs. Not sure if the spring is different or not.
Both when stock were less than 1/4" difference in the front. Both are basically optioned the same, as far as weight would go.
The Gladiator seems to be sitting just over 1/2" taller with the new springs. Don't really notice any difference in ride. It didn't bottom over the transition where it would usually bottom.
I would usually take the transition between 18 and 20 mph. This would make the bumpstops just kiss, but not harsh, barely noticeable. Now I can take the same transition at 25ish mph with the same results. The old springs would of hammered the bumpstops at that speed.

 

[biodiesel]

Took me a bit but I checked.

Thanks for checking and reporting. I'll most likely go with the Clayton coils and Fox Shocks. Fox makes the 2.0 Performance Series shocks and the 2.5 Performance Elite Series shocks for 0"-1.5" lift. I plan to keep the truck mostly stock, but upgrading the springs/shocks would be desired. We'll see how long the OE red shocks holdup before they start leaking. Otherwise, I love the truck!

 

[RudeJeepin]

Thanks for checking and reporting. I'll most likely go with the Clayton coils and Fox Shocks. Fox makes the 2.0 Performance Series shocks and the 2.5 Performance Elite Series shocks for 0"-1.5" lift. I plan to keep the truck mostly stock, but upgrading the springs/shocks would be desired. We'll see how long the OE red shocks holdup before they start leaking. Otherwise, I love the truck!

I was planning on using the Clayton 1.5 lift springs to build my own lift. Then, going with one of the sets of Foxes from a place like Accutune or similar. Prices seem pretty similar to the same shocks off the shelf as tuned ones.

But I needed shocks in a hurry and wasn't ready to break the bank yet. Figured I'd try the Clayton 0.5 diesel springs while I was there. I like the spring and what it did for the ride. Either I'll get another set for the wife's Wrangler or transfer these over and do a full set for my Gladiator.

Before you do shocks to a little research and measuring. Since the diesel has extended bump stops in the front, compressed lengths can safely be an inch or more longer than non diesel Gladiators. Rears have some room, but not as much as the front.

 

[biodiesel]

Before you do shocks to a little research and measuring. Since the diesel has extended bump stops in the front, compressed lengths can safely be an inch or more longer than non diesel Gladiators. Rears have some room, but not as much as the front.

That's a good point. When I went to Fox's website, they didn't differentiate between the diesel or gasoline engine. It listed the 2.0 Performance Series shocks (985-24-171) and the 2.5 Performance Elite Series shocks (883-26-049) for the 2023 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon with 0"-1.5" lift.

 

[NC_Overland]

Ride is so subjective. I like the ride of my Jeep so much better on the Bilstein 5100s than the Fox Rubicon shocks or the awful stock Overland suspension it first had. BUT, I drive mainly European cars and love their firm ride and cannot stand a floaty, uncontrolled ride. My Overland floated down the road like it was on a cloud, but I hated the ride so much. The handling was sloppy and it kept floating around after hitting bumps. It was cool on my 65 DeVille Convertible, but not cool on anything else. Yet some people would love a ride like that and put around at 65 mph because they think Jeeps shouldn’t go any faster. That’s perfect for them I guess.

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