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Lost my key on the MTB trails the other day. I ordered a replacement through ACE hardware. $212 total with programming included. They did have to order but said they sometime have more common keys on hand. Would have been like $275 at the dealer.

The experience....they cut the new key. Guy walks out to my car with a little pelican case and inside, there is a device about the size of an old school brick phone with a dongle that connects to OBD port. There is also a small, oldish samsung tablet that connects wirelessly (bluetooth?) to the OBD device. He spends about 1 minute typing some generic car data in the tablet....Car year, make and model. He then sits in my car, turns on hazards, plugs in the OBD device. This is the interesting part.....About 5 seconds later (no exaggeration) he chuckles out loud and says "Thats it?" He tells me thats the fastest and easiest key copy he has ever made. He admitted it was his first Jeep but said he's done dozens of other cars, including other Mopar vehicles. This was, by far, the fastest, stating that it usually takes at least 5-10 minutes on the low side.

I asked him about programming keys and he said as far as he could tell, there is nothing in the software or device that would prevent him from programming or reprograming an used key. He told me the contract with the device comes with all sorts of rules stating they are only supposed to use keys ordered through official channels ect., but he admitted they have played with it.

Makes me wonder what happens if someone steals this case from ACE.
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I don't understand this post- did you just want to declare that you were browsing Craigslist? Or is there more to it?
I edited it....I fat fingered they enter key before.
 

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Makes me wonder what happens if someone steals this case from ACE.
If you did not have a working key with you, the Ace machine would not work as I understand it.
To program a key, you need a PIN. You can get the PIN from the dealer, but it can also be read from the vehicle, but the vehicle ignition must be on to read that PIN.
 

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Hmm... interesting. My local Ace won't even cut a key that you don't but from them, anymore, and they are firm on that. I doubt they have this programmer up for grabs. That being said, I'm sure car thieves already know about this. The joyriders and amateurs aren't going to take the time to find, learn how, or use one, and the pro's just pull a flatbed up and take the car within seconds. I've always been told that you won't stop a real car thief, just don't make it a convenient crime for an amateur.
 

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You can buy a key programmer if you really want one, no need to steal one.
 

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You can buy a key programmer if you really want one, no need to steal one.
Really? I've never looked into it but always assumed it would be somewhat difficult to obtain...Probably not though.
 
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Hmm... interesting. My local Ace won't even cut a key that you don't but from them, anymore, and they are firm on that. I doubt they have this programmer up for grabs. That being said, I'm sure car thieves already know about this. The joyriders and amateurs aren't going to take the time to find, learn how, or use one, and the pro's just pull a flatbed up and take the car within seconds. I've always been told that you won't stop a real car thief, just don't make it a convenient crime for an amateur.
from what ive seen of the latest thieves stealing the Dodge hellcats in Chicago area, I flat bed would take too long. There are a few videos out there with the whole process taking less than 30 seconds before they drive away..........I wonder If the sequel to Nick Cage's movie will have a different title.
 

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Little known fact that one more Jeep Easter Egg is that the PIN for the keys is 1942. The designers thought 12345, but didn't want to have Jeep owners confuse the PIN with their luggage combination.
 

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Does your key have proximity? <wondering how much that fob would be to replace>
 

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You can retrieve the PIN and program a key using JScan. But again, you have to have a working key to turn the Jeep on to get this information.
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