New Legit Medical Reason - Quieting the JT or JL Cabin

[Papa Jawa]

Last sunday freak medical shit, my right ear went 100% deaf. No need to tell the story here, just know, it is a legit 100% lost. And... My left ear sucks from 20 years in the Navy serving alongside the Marines as a medic and on board ships. All indication is my right ear loss is permanent. Even if I get some back it won't be conversational hearing.

I'm the proud owner of a 2020 Mojave, and my wife has a 2020 JLR. I love them both, and until a week ago could not imagine myself in another vehicle, other than another JT, ever again. Now that I can only hear from my left crappy ear I can hardly stand to drive either of them. When I am driving with my windows up, radio off and AC on low it sounds like my left window is open about 3 inches. I can barely understand the passenger and cannot hear any conversation from the back seat. If the family goes somewhere I sit in the back right seat so my left ear is to the family and the cabin. I am fine by myself in my gladiator, with an ear plug. Or as a passenger.

The JLR is going nowhere, but my Mojave is not long for my ownership, unless I can get it quiet. I have never asked the community for input until now. I have two questions:

1. Can I do it? Can I make it more quiet or is it a lost cause? I have been around the community for a while and know that Jeep Bricks travelling at 75 mph makes a lot of wind noise.
2. If I can't make this work, what truck do I buy? I am torn between a loaded Ram Big Horn diesel or an F150 XLT hybrid. I know the 2020's will be out soon. I expect them to just be different cooler than the 2021 but I don't think there is anything big that would sway me one way or another. If you think there is a specific good reason for something different let me know please.

I am a desert kid that likes to go where I want to go. I do not need to crawl much.

Thank you fellow Jeepers.

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[jcarbs]

Would putting in the Coverking headliner that pretty much covers the entire hardtop area provide sufficient sound deadening for you? From what I've read it lowers the decibels and makes it quieter. Just a thought!

 

[TBuck]

Last sunday freak medical shit, my right ear went 100% deaf. No need to tell the story here, just know, it is a legit 100% lost. And... My left ear sucks from 20 years in the Navy serving alongside the Marines as a medic and on board ships. All indication is my right ear loss is permanent. Even if I get some back it won't be conversational hearing.

I'm the proud owner of a 2020 Mojave, and my wife has a 2020 JLR. I love them both, and until a week ago could not imagine myself in another vehicle, other than another JT, ever again. Now that I can only hear from my left crappy ear I can hardly stand to drive either of them. When I am driving with my windows up, radio off and AC on low it sounds like my left window is open about 3 inches. I can barely understand the passenger and cannot hear any conversation from the back seat. If the family goes somewhere I sit in the back right seat so my left ear is to the family and the cabin. I am fine by myself in my gladiator, with an ear plug. Or as a passenger.

The JLR is going nowhere, but my Mojave is not long for my ownership, unless I can get it quiet. I have never asked the community for input until now. I have two questions:

1. Can I do it? Can I make it more quiet or is it a lost cause? I have been around the community for a while and know that Jeep Bricks travelling at 75 mph makes a lot of wind noise.
2. If I can't make this work, what truck do I buy? I am torn between a loaded Ram Big Horn diesel or an F150 XLT hybrid. I know the 2020's will be out soon. I expect them to just be different cooler than the 2021 but I don't think there is anything big that would sway me one way or another. If you think there is a specific good reason for something different let me know please.

I am a desert kid that likes to go where I want to go. I do not need to crawl much.

Thank you fellow Jeepers.

So...you can't hear your wife anymore? Sounds like problem solved to me.

 

[Terry]

Last sunday freak medical shit, my right ear went 100% deaf. No need to tell the story here, just know, it is a legit 100% lost. And... My left ear sucks from 20 years in the Navy serving alongside the Marines as a medic and on board ships. All indication is my right ear loss is permanent. Even if I get some back it won't be conversational hearing.

I'm the proud owner of a 2020 Mojave, and my wife has a 2020 JLR. I love them both, and until a week ago could not imagine myself in another vehicle, other than another JT, ever again. Now that I can only hear from my left crappy ear I can hardly stand to drive either of them. When I am driving with my windows up, radio off and AC on low it sounds like my left window is open about 3 inches. I can barely understand the passenger and cannot hear any conversation from the back seat. If the family goes somewhere I sit in the back right seat so my left ear is to the family and the cabin. I am fine by myself in my gladiator, with an ear plug. Or as a passenger.

The JLR is going nowhere, but my Mojave is not long for my ownership, unless I can get it quiet. I have never asked the community for input until now. I have two questions:

1. Can I do it? Can I make it more quiet or is it a lost cause? I have been around the community for a while and know that Jeep Bricks travelling at 75 mph makes a lot of wind noise.
2. If I can't make this work, what truck do I buy? I am torn between a loaded Ram Big Horn diesel or an F150 XLT hybrid. I know the 2020's will be out soon. I expect them to just be different cooler than the 2021 but I don't think there is anything big that would sway me one way or another. If you think there is a specific good reason for something different let me know please.

I am a desert kid that likes to go where I want to go. I do not need to crawl much.

Thank you fellow Jeepers.

Right there with you Brother. The Army and then 24 years as a LEO and I have very diminished hearing in the left ear. What I do hear is fractured and not intelligable. My Rubicon has the stock OEM Tires and they are noisy, so it is hard for me to hear the phone, rear seat conversatons while moving; however, a pending change to BFG K20's should lessen the tire noise. I know when I first lost the hearing it drove me nuts, and I was depressed.... but, then I realized that humans adapt to physical changes and before long I was not noticing it as a much or at all. Take care, and keep the Jeep

 

[SF_E60]

Sorry to hear about your hearing. Look into --> https://www.dynamat.com/ I know there's audio shops and performance shops that use this for different reasons.

 

[Papa Jawa]

So...you can't hear your wife anymore? Sounds like problem solved to me.

You don’t know my wife. She’s the kindest, smartest, most loving person I know. She freakin hot as Hell, keeps our family on track and we are all the better for it. Oh yeah, her JL is a Recon, she is not afraid to get dirty, and she is a better technical driver than me. But thanks for sharing.

 

[Radio Guy]

I would take the truck to a local car stereo shop that specializes in sound deadening using Dynamat, Kilmat or similar products. They can apply it to the roof panels, doors, floor, everything but lots of stuff has to come out of the truck including carpets to lay the sheets down. With a full treatment of sound deadening sheets you will be shocked at how quiet the truck can get.


Edit: You can also install the sound deadening sheets yourself if you don't mind a lot of labor, just watch some Youtube videos and select the right product for the specific area to be treated.

 

[Papa Jawa]

Would putting in the Coverking headliner that pretty much covers the entire hardtop area provide sufficient sound deadening for you? From what I've read it lowers the decibels and makes it quieter. Just a thought!

Thanks I will check them out, not familiar. I have the mopar headliner which helps. Maybe both might help most.

I’m thinking I need something between the frame/cage and the door frame.

 

[ACAD_Cowboy]

You sir are a prime candidate for mass loaded vinyl and/or various other deadening products. Do the whole tub, inside the doors, interior of hood and then the hardtop wells, cover those with headliner of choice. Changing out luggy offroad tires for some all terrain tires will likewise quiet the ride. A final helping hand would be to have something like hurricane film applied to the glass on the interior to knock down any transients there.

I often find myself in some loud cranky rattly diesel trucks for long stretches and one of the real big helps for me is noise canceling headphones, I got the cheap JBL ones (not the dirty cheap but not sony or beats) and they do a great job of knocking down drone. Airplane engine noise gone, steady state diesel sound gone, road noise from tires gone. Talking with my copilots is easy as well. It's amazing how much better I feel after not hearing a DT44E wailing away for hours. The real nice part is you can use take calls and actually hear the call too.

 

[Papa Jawa]

Right there with you Brother. The Army and then 24 years as a LEO and I have very diminished hearing in the left ear. What I do hear is fractured and not intelligable. My Rubicon has the stock OEM Tires and they are noisy, so it is hard for me to hear the phone, rear seat conversatons while moving; however, a pending change to BFG K20's should lessen the tire noise. I know when I first lost the hearing it drove me nuts, and I was depressed.... but, then I realized that humans adapt to physical changes and before long I was not noticing it as a much or at all. Take care, and keep the Jeep

Thanks bro! I have been telling everybody old war dogs don’t quit they adapt and become better. But, to adapt, we have to drive through the adversity to be forged.

I appreciate the encouragement.

 

[Papa Jawa]

Sorry to hear about your hearing. Look into --> https://www.dynamat.com/ I know there's audio shops and performance shops that use this for different reasons.

Will check them out. Thank you.

 

[rharr]

If sound bothers you that much you may need to consider a luxury car like a benz, lexus, cadillac or tesla, they are basically designed to keep all road noise out. I know it's not a truck thing but trucks in general are going to be noisy due to poor aerodynamic, bigger motors, clunkier design.

Maybe a cadilac escalade would be the closest thing to a truck while still having a high level of sound control. But probably won't be close to a lexus or benz.

 

[Papa Jawa]

I would take the truck to a local car stereo shop that specializes in sound deadening using Dynamat, Kilmat or similar products. They can apply it to the roof panels, doors, floor, everything but lots of stuff has to come out of the truck including carpets to lay the sheets down. With a full treatment of sound deadening sheets you will be shocked at how quiet the truck can get.


Edit: You can also install the sound deadening sheets yourself if you don't mind a lot of labor, just watch some Youtube videos and select the right product for the specific area to be treated.

I feel like a dumbass for not thinking of an audio shop! Thanks!

 

[booneja]

I have a friend with similar issues after his return from Afghanistan (3rd tour) and he completely covered the inside of his LR Defender 110 with sound deadening, and then covered that in vehicle carpet, it made a huge difference and almost compared to his wife's LR Discovery for sound, might be your best options to retain the JTM

 

[Papa Jawa]

You sir are a prime candidate for mass loaded vinyl and/or various other deadening products. Do the whole tub, inside the doors, interior of hood and then the hardtop wells, cover those with headliner of choice. Changing out luggy offroad tires for some all terrain tires will likewise quiet the ride. A final helping hand would be to have something like hurricane film applied to the glass on the interior to knock down any transients there.

I often find myself in some loud cranky rattly diesel trucks for long stretches and one of the real big helps for me is noise canceling headphones, I got the cheap JBL ones (not the dirty cheap but not sony or beats) and they do a great job of knocking down drone. Airplane engine noise gone, steady state diesel sound gone, road noise from tires gone. Talking with my copilots is easy as well. It's amazing how much better I feel after not hearing a DT44E wailing away for hours. The real nice part is you can use take calls and actually hear the call too.

Good idea with the headphones. I am talking to Audiology this morning to see about new hearing devices. My old hearing aids, thank god for the VA, we’re designed for two ears. I’ll ask about sound canceling protective options.

thanks

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