Options Holding Up Orders

[GregMG79]

I am looking at ordering a Mojave with these options:
auto
select track
led package
blind spot
advanced cruise control
front trail cam
bed liner
tonneau cover
black hardtop
tow package
cold weather package
Color undecided but not white

any of these options delaying orders or causing orders to take longer delivery times?

Thanks

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[Rahkmalla]

To my knowledge Jeep is not making production constraints knowledge available. I will tell you the bed liner is done at a different location from assembly, so that adds time, but not much. Week tops.

Honestly, from my perspective, this is a vehicle youre going to keep for years. If it's perfect as ordered you'll probably keep it longer than if it's missing something. A month or two more wait for a two or more extra years with the proper vehicle is a trade worth making.

Order what you want, let it show up when it may.

 

[GregMG79]

To my knowledge Jeep is not making production constraints knowledge available. I will tell you the bed liner is done at a different location from assembly, so that adds time, but not much. Week tops.

Honestly, from my perspective, this is a vehicle youre going to keep for years. If it's perfect as ordered you'll probably keep it longer than if it's missing something. A month or two more wait for a two or more extra years with the proper vehicle is a trade worth making.

Order what you want, let it show up when it may.

Thanks. I may be moving in the summer so I am worried if I order it will take too long. Would need it in June.

 

[Rahkmalla]

Thanks. I may be moving in the summer so I am worried if I order it will take too long. Would need it in June.

June might be tight. When I ordered my 22 willys (auto and hardtop and nothing else) that took 2 months to arrive.
22 Mojave order was placed on March 15th. I have a vin but no build sheet. Manual, hardtop, switches, and tow on that one. Manual might make production a little longer.

For your situation, since you might be in one of two locations when it arrives anyway, find the nearest dealer offering solid discounts that's between your two locations and order with them. If you potentially could have a distance to travel anyway, might as well save enough money on the truck to pay for the travel and then some.

 

[Deadeye]

June might be tight. When I ordered my 22 willys (auto and hardtop and nothing else) that took 2 months to arrive.
22 Mojave order was placed on March 15th. I have a vin but no build sheet. Manual, hardtop, switches, and tow on that one. Manual might make production a little longer.

For your situation, since you might be in one of two locations when it arrives anyway, find the nearest dealer offering solid discounts that's between your two locations and order with them. If you potentially could have a distance to travel anyway, might as well save enough money on the truck to pay for the travel and then some.

Or hit up Gupton. If you have to travel anyway, might as well get max savings and its an excuse to go out west. Mid-Atlantic region isn't the most exciting for offroading.

 

[sharpsicle]

Thanks. I may be moving in the summer so I am worried if I order it will take too long. Would need it in June.

If you haven't ordered it yet, you've already put yourself in a tight spot. If you went and got the order submitted today there's a chance you'll have it in June, but you can't rely on that no matter what options you order it with.

Ordering new vehicles requires patience and flexibility. There's no formula for delivery dates.

 

[cj8scrambler]

June might be tight. When I ordered my 22 willys (auto and hardtop and nothing else) that took 2 months to arrive.
22 Mojave order was placed on March 15th. I have a vin but no build sheet. Manual, hardtop, switches, and tow on that one. Manual might make production a little longer.

I ordered a Rubicon on 2/28 with manual, hardtop, switches and tow package. I also have a VIN and no build sheet. I think you're right that manual is slowing it down.

 

[Geoarch]

I am looking at ordering a Mojave with these options:
auto
select track
led package
blind spot
advanced cruise control
front trail cam
bed liner
tonneau cover
black hardtop
tow package
cold weather package
Color undecided but not white

any of these options delaying orders or causing orders to take longer delivery times?

Thanks

Here's by build sequence and schedule, and my Rubicon was fairly loaded. Still I don't have a window sticker and it isn't on the train yet. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it:

JT Rubicon - JTJS98
3.6L V6 Pentastar engine with 6-speed manual transmission - 23R
Bright white clear coat - PW7
Premium cloth bucket seats - D5X9
Aux switch group - AM2
Advanced safety group - ALP
Enhanced adaptive cruise control (not ordered, included) -
MOPAR grab handle kit - CSV
LED lighting group - AD6
Cold weather group - ADE
Trailer tow package - ABR
MOPAR all-weather slush mats - CWA
Black 3-piece hard top - HT1
MOPAR hardtop headliner - CHD
Steel front bumper - MC6
Roll-up tonneau cover - CSD
MOPAR satin black grille - MHJ
MOPAR spray-in bedliner - XMF
MOPAR plastic door sill guards - CLP
Locking lug nuts - XJC
Safety group - AJ1

2/25/2022 - Ordered (Larry Miller Jeep, Albuquerque, NM)
2/28 - VIN
3/5- Parts scheduling
3/7 - D1 - scheduled for production - estimated ship date 4/17
4/4 - E- entered framing
4/5 - F- paint
4/5 - G - Trim
4/6 - I - Completed build process, pending quality inspection. No dealer ETA has been provided.
4/7 - Build sheet published
4/14 - J = vehicle passed final inspection but not released to carrier (waiting to be loaded on train). No dealer ETA has been provided, or window sticker.

 

[Rahkmalla]

I ordered a Rubicon on 2/28 with manual, hardtop, switches and tow package. I also have a VIN and no build sheet. I think you're right that manual is slowing it down.

Not hard to imagine they wait until they have enough manual orders to do an entire run of standards. Whether that means a day of production or a week who knows. But yea we're gonna wait. While I'd love to have my mojave sooner, I wouldn't sacrifice the perfect truck to get a non-perfect truck quicker.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Not hard to imagine they wait until they have enough manual orders to do an entire run of standards.

That's not how auto manufacturing works........... they don't do "runs" of anything like that.

The whole drivetrain as far as engine, transmission and transfer case are installed as a unit

 

[Rahkmalla]

That's not how auto manufacturing works........... they don't do "runs" of anything like that.

The whole drivetrain as far as engine, transmission and transfer case are installed as a unit

Funny, they do runs of color.

I'm not understanding why installing the drivetrain as a unit precludes production runs. Its not just drievtrain. You have an interior piece as well, and im sure they have to flash some kind of code so the rest of the car knows what transmissoon it has.

Other drivetrain differences have interior differences too. Diesels get thicker carpets for example.

 

[ZoMojave]

According to my dealer they do production "runs" of colors. Not that I planned this out, but I ordered my JTM in Bright White and got lucky to hit it at the right timeframe.

There does seem to be some disagreement on certain options holding up builds. No real way to confirm that but again, my dealer told me to not order some things including Manual trans, Spray-in bedliner, Aux switches, Hardtop headliner, Splash mats and Tow hitch due to availability issues. I trusted them and placed the order with some modifications. I was on the fence about a manual trans anyway and can certainly live with an auto. I have already added the other Mopar items on my end and saved $$ (hundreds on the class IV hitch alone).

Transportation issues are still very real according to what I have heard. My dealer is still waiting on a 2022 Rubi that was ordered in December. They stated that it is still sitting at a storage lot. Keep in mind, this was ordered for stock and not a customer sold unit.

I ordered mine on 2/14 and it was built in 5 days then on a railcar within a week after that. Took delivery from the dealer on 3/15.

Even if you have to wait it is still worth it. I would order from the area that you will be moving to. It can all be done from a distance. Cross your fingers and order away!

 

[redriderjf87]

If they replenish the manual gearboxes in batches to the factory I could see that. I have no idea in this case though, sometimes I see a similar thing in my field of mfg (large Ag).

I agree with others though. Just make sure you order what you want, some extra time or traveling to get it will be well worth it.

Just for reference, my base Willy's Sport with manual & bed liner took 13 weeks, finished up near the end of Oct.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

According to my dealer they do production "runs" of colors. Not that I planned this out, but I ordered my JTM in Bright White and got lucky to hit it at the right timeframe.

Your dealer has obviously never visited a car factory, watched them being built, or known people who worked in the factory - painting and building.

Today they do make "runs" of colors in a specific booth - but not that long ago, they literally painted different colors in the same booth, switching color hoses on the guns, then it came to the point the guns had multiple sources. A guy who worked painting at AMC/Jeep years ago explained why when you pulled interior panels off by the back seat, the color didn't match the exterior - they shot the blue that was in the gun onto those panels, switched hoses, then proceeded to paint the car orange on the outside, door jambs, engine bay and so on. I asked - hey, why are the panels inside my GREEN car behind the trim painted haphazardly with orange? They emptied the gun there, or in a grate in the floor and switched hoses.
That was years ago - but even then, they didn't do "today is for red Eagles" day, tomorrow we'll do brown.
And some plants have multiple paint lines, etc. - so how they do it varies. Some even used to do the bodies in one building them move them to final assembly. I think those days are pretty well gone, though....... it was expensive to do that.

Seriously, no, they don't make all one trim level, all one color, all one this or that option in the same day, even the same hour. The parts are inventoried, staged and handed out automatically via QR codes, bar codes and other methods. When the car, truck or Jeep comes along that is supposed to have a 7" radio, that radio is right there for the employee to grab and install and it's scanned or otherwise logged in. Grills - the grill for that VIN is ready to go and if the next one is a blue Overland, it gets the blue Overland grill that's next in line ahead of the Red Rubicon grill.


They were doing red ones today and someone screwed up. That will get them a visit from the supervisor.

OK, what moron threw that white one in there, today is silver day -

Just painted and dried, inspection, buffing, etc. - all one color as the color of the day is black -

What color was this morning's run supposed to be again?

No wonder Jeep is so screwed up, they are all color blind

But enough about Jeep, today we make black cars - hey, who is the joker who threw that red one in there????

Even Honda employees can't tell white from blue............

I guess auto makers around the globe haven't got the directive yet - one color at a time, guys!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Not hard to imagine they wait until they have enough manual orders to do an entire run of standards.

See my other post - that is not how it works. They put in whatever that VIN calls for. They don't decide to make all 100 manual Jeeps today and go back to automatics because they have enough orders. I'm not sure where some of this comes from, but it's not how it works.
Even in the past, when comparing body sequence numbers for kicks to see how close together some of our cars were made, one made 2 cars ahead of mine was a stick while mine was automatic, mine had a 360 while theirs was a 401.
Whatever is needed for that car is what's next in line as it goes in.
It's one reason there are options packages instead of so many different options. They can bundle things going down the line, less confusing for inventory, programming and assembly.
It's why the wires are in the dash harness for a passive entry truck and yet that truck doesn't have passive entry (also called proximity locks)

The PCM is locked to the VIN and the VIN tells them what equipment it gets, so that's what is next in line. They won't wait a week until they get enough orders for manual transmissions. That's very inefficient.

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