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I say Jeep/truck.

ChatGPT says truck!

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You just won the whole internet and now own this forum, IMO, with that one.

(I hardly consider a truck that can crawl over or through things that would cripple or leave others stranded "fragile". The only thing fragile about these is the body bolts - I busted one with a 15" 1970s Indestro breaker bar)
I don't see these fragile compared to trucks that have frames that rot in half, wheels that fall off, etc. Think of the abuse these will take.

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I'm pretty sure both words came from trains and generally are somewhat interchangeable.
A "car" is anything with wheels historically and a "truck" was the part on the train "car" that actually held the wheels.
 

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I'm pretty sure both words came from trains and generally are somewhat interchangeable.
A "car" is anything with wheels historically and a "truck" was the part on the train "car" that actually held the wheels.
Sorry, waay before that. Trokhos (sp) was the Greek for "wheel" and was used centuries before a train existed. Try the 1600s.
We can easily imagine the Greek word morphing to "truck" and then truck becoming that which has wheels, holds and hauls something.
Truck was used for the wheels under a ship's cannon, and "truck" or "trucks" was used for the cart with wheels that carried large engines from place to place. When I was deep into collecting and restoring hit and miss engines, and other "stationary engines", I bought TRUCKS for under those engines. So truck was something that hauled something else on top of it.
Farm engines were on trucks.
Possible that "truck" referred to the carriage of a train car that the wheels were running on - and that again would make sense because the truck had wheels, and the truck was carrying the load (the train "car")
Carrum and Carrus - Latin and Celtic, even karros - a chariot. It came to be the word for any horse drawn cart or carriage. So the terms Carrus, cassum and karros all have a sound similar to "car". They were used for a horse drawn cart, chariot, etc. so car naturally came into being since it was a "horseless carriage". If those three terms defined a horse drawn carriage or chariot, and later the horse was dropped, then it was natural for an "automobile" to be also called a "car".

So the two terms actually have different origins and originally different meaning -
Car (carrus) to define a horse drawn means of transport, and truck - something with wheels that holds or carries something else (like a cannon, engine, or rail car)
All before trains on tracks existed.

Having had an interest in automotive history since my HS days, this sort of stuff is just plain fun.

This is my 1914 Canadian Chapman (a very rare engine) on TRUCKS -

Jeep Gladiator The Jeep Gladiator IS a CAR!! 1679686241757


My "Humdinger" Fairbanks-Morse engine with mudpump before restoration - and on TRUCKS -

Jeep Gladiator The Jeep Gladiator IS a CAR!! 1679686377830
 

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Sorry, waay before that. Trokhos (sp) was the Greek for "wheel" and was used centuries before a train existed. Try the 1600s.
We can easily imagine the Greek word morphing to "truck" and then truck becoming that which has wheels, holds and hauls something.
Truck was used for the wheels under a ship's cannon, and "truck" or "trucks" was used for the cart with wheels that carried large engines from place to place. When I was deep into collecting and restoring hit and miss engines, and other "stationary engines", I bought TRUCKS for under those engines. So truck was something that hauled something else on top of it.
Farm engines were on trucks.
Possible that "truck" referred to the carriage of a train car that the wheels were running on - and that again would make sense because the truck had wheels, and the truck was carrying the load (the train "car")
Carrum and Carrus - Latin and Celtic, even karros - a chariot. It came to be the word for any horse drawn cart or carriage. So the terms Carrus, cassum and karros all have a sound similar to "car". They were used for a horse drawn cart, chariot, etc. so car naturally came into being since it was a "horseless carriage". If those three terms defined a horse drawn carriage or chariot, and later the horse was dropped, then it was natural for an "automobile" to be also called a "car".

So the two terms actually have different origins and originally different meaning -
Car (carrus) to define a horse drawn means of transport, and truck - something with wheels that holds or carries something else (like a cannon, engine, or rail car)
All before trains on tracks existed.

Having had an interest in automotive history since my HS days, this sort of stuff is just plain fun.

This is my 1914 Canadian Chapman (a very rare engine) on TRUCKS -

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My "Humdinger" Fairbanks-Morse engine with mudpump before restoration - and on TRUCKS -

1679686377830.png
I should have qualified by starting with : "In the U.S...."
 

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Personally.... I could care less what they call it. I lost that feeling back in June 2019 when I first got it. Hated by and treated bad everyone for owning it! Even the Jeep crowd! And still get treated bad.

At the end of the day, I tow, haul, offroad, rock crawl, daily drive it, and pick up the groceries! It does everything I need it to do. If someone feels the need to hate and call it a name, let them. Let the hate and jealousy shine through!?
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