Thinking. Trade, Keep?

[Jeeperjamie]

the 4:1 Transfer case is also awesome for wheeling so when you add up that with lockers, sway bar disconnects, extra skid plates, what you spent on the rubi suspension, off road mode, etc. then its worth it if you're going to be off roading more regularly

I already got the skid, plates off a Rubicon and the suspension. How much better is the 4:1 Transfer case, is it $20,000 better. I can do without the creature comforts, I got a base sport max tow and I bought the skids, suspension and rock rails for under $500. The bumpers on a Rubicon would come off if I bought one so no point in that. I added lockers to my JKU for around $1200 and figure if I stay under $2000 on the JT I'd on be all in lift, lockers, Rubicon stuff I want on mine, current lift and tires, bumpers front and rear, all in for $43,000. If I sold mine and bought a Rubicon I'd be at or over $53,000 and then I'd have to start a new build over.

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[straman17]

Vroom gave me a great price too. Haven't decided what I'd do yet, but what was involved with the nightmare?

I just sold mine to Vroom for more than what I paid for it. The experience with Vroom was a nightmare, however they did offer me the best price by far. Now waiting to see if any new colors or news regarding 2022 models comes out soon.

Got a good price from Vroom as well. I have sold to Carvana but never Vroom. What made it such a hassle? I don't like how they take the car and not cut you the check. Carvana did everything all at once. The experience was almost unbelievable.

 

[Litfury]

Long story short. Vroom does not use their own vehicles to pick up cars. They subcontract to local companies. That local company is responsible for picking up your vehicle and they have up to 10 days to do so, even though you’ve already signed the car away at this point basically. They are supposed to call you to keep you up to date or notify you of pickup. Of course they never did. When they pick up they are supposed to provide you with a “bill of lading,” which just my luck the gentleman who picked mine up couldn’t give me due to phone issues. When a bill of Lading isn’t provided it delays the process even further. I called them daily for a week for updates and every single time I called I was given a different story and different timelines etc.
When I tried to escalate my case further and was put on hold for a supervisor of customer relations I sat on hold so long it eventually just hung up on me.
I repeatedly mentioned to them over the phone how their FAQ timelines are way off, but was always given a different excuse.
Anyways I’ll quit ranting, that is the short of it, I have sold to Carvana in the past and it was seamless. For a few hundred difference go with another carrier. Unfortunately in my case Vroom was thousands above the rest, for a substantial amount it may be worth it, but be prepared for an ordeal.

 

[JTBurns]

Long story short. Vroom does not use their own vehicles to pick up cars. They subcontract to local companies. That local company is responsible for picking up your vehicle and they have up to 10 days to do so, even though you’ve already signed the car away at this point basically. They are supposed to call you to keep you up to date or notify you of pickup. Of course they never did. When they pick up they are supposed to provide you with a “bill of lading,” which just my luck the gentleman who picked mine up couldn’t give me due to phone issues. When a bill of Lading isn’t provided it delays the process even further. I called them daily for a week for updates and every single time I called I was given a different story and different timelines etc.
When I tried to escalate my case further and was put on hold for a supervisor of customer relations I sat on hold so long it eventually just hung up on me.
I repeatedly mentioned to them over the phone how their FAQ timelines are way off, but was always given a different excuse.
Anyways I’ll quit ranting, that is the short of it, I have sold to Carvana in the past and it was seamless. For a few hundred difference go with another carrier. Unfortunately in my case Vroom was thousands above the rest, for a substantial amount it may be worth it, but be prepared for an ordeal.

Oh wow that sounds terrible. Like their setting it up to delay payment or get you to give up altogether. Thanks for the color

 

[Jeeperjamie]

Long story short. Vroom does not use their own vehicles to pick up cars. They subcontract to local companies. That local company is responsible for picking up your vehicle and they have up to 10 days to do so, even though you’ve already signed the car away at this point basically. They are supposed to call you to keep you up to date or notify you of pickup. Of course they never did. When they pick up they are supposed to provide you with a “bill of lading,” which just my luck the gentleman who picked mine up couldn’t give me due to phone issues. When a bill of Lading isn’t provided it delays the process even further. I called them daily for a week for updates and every single time I called I was given a different story and different timelines etc.
When I tried to escalate my case further and was put on hold for a supervisor of customer relations I sat on hold so long it eventually just hung up on me.
I repeatedly mentioned to them over the phone how their FAQ timelines are way off, but was always given a different excuse.
Anyways I’ll quit ranting, that is the short of it, I have sold to Carvana in the past and it was seamless. For a few hundred difference go with another carrier. Unfortunately in my case Vroom was thousands above the rest, for a substantial amount it may be worth it, but be prepared for an ordeal.

This is why I always use the Dealership when I sell my vehicle. The one I use has always made better offers than anyone else. No ordeal or crap to deal with. I had offer on my JKU with Vroom and then the dealership offered me $1100 more and cut me a check the same day.

 

[andrew8404]

I just did the same thing. It was tuff letting go of the Gobi but worth it for the Rubicon. Plus I got 5k more then what I paid for the Sport S and another 5k off on the rubicon. 10k swing is worth it by far. I really debated between Sarge and Sting Grey and ended up with the Grey. Super happy so far and well worth the color change.

 

[andrew8404]

I'd keep what you have. No point in a small marginal upgrade.

Anyone unhappy with their color can just wrap the vehicle.

small marginal upgrades?? Really? Front and rear lockers, sway bar disconnect, and larger fenders. That’s more then 4K of marginal differences. I will agree the wrap is always an option.

 

[Summitsearcher]

I took the plunge with one on the lot. That dealer was not letting me leave with my trade. I got an awesome deal. I let them look at mine at the dealer, told them what I’d pay for the Rubicon and we came to a deal. They sold my Sport in two weeks. No regrets

 

[ttn333]

I'd say go for it if you really want it. Seriously, you'll be happier than you are now, stressing over it. Don't worry about how other people are rationalizing it one way or the other. Again, only if you really want a Rubicon. After all, this is a want, not a need. A Toyota Corolla would probably do ok for most of our needs. I'm happy I went with a full on Rubi, steel bumper and all. Completely satisfied my wants as far as model choice and options go.
Edit: Plus everyone knows Sarge is best color for Jeep.

 

[chsapeak]

You mentioned being concerned with trading and how future values will be considered. I've traded in numerous trucks and drove them until my ordered vehicle arrived from the factory. You and the dealer will negotiate the deal and put the value in writing when you order your new one. Any incentives will be honored at that time. Lets say for example there's a $1K rebate when you order, then the day before you pick it up the incentive goes up to $2K. You get the 2K. If it goes down to zero rebates, you still get the $1K you signed for. Really can't loose. You may have to promise to keep the miles under a predetermined amount while you wait for your new truck to arrive, but that always seamed fair to me. I'm pulling the trigger on a '22 Rubicon diesel and ordering the day they go online. Trading in my 2020 gator Rubicon with 12K miles

 

[straman17]

Long story short. Vroom does not use their own vehicles to pick up cars. They subcontract to local companies. That local company is responsible for picking up your vehicle and they have up to 10 days to do so, even though you’ve already signed the car away at this point basically. They are supposed to call you to keep you up to date or notify you of pickup. Of course they never did. When they pick up they are supposed to provide you with a “bill of lading,” which just my luck the gentleman who picked mine up couldn’t give me due to phone issues. When a bill of Lading isn’t provided it delays the process even further. I called them daily for a week for updates and every single time I called I was given a different story and different timelines etc.
When I tried to escalate my case further and was put on hold for a supervisor of customer relations I sat on hold so long it eventually just hung up on me.
I repeatedly mentioned to them over the phone how their FAQ timelines are way off, but was always given a different excuse.
Anyways I’ll quit ranting, that is the short of it, I have sold to Carvana in the past and it was seamless. For a few hundred difference go with another carrier. Unfortunately in my case Vroom was thousands above the rest, for a substantial amount it may be worth it, but be prepared for an ordeal.

Thanks for the feedback as I am seriously contemplating trading into vroom they were about 1500 higher than Carvana and the value just really shocked me. It’s almost too good to be true.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

There is no way ever that I let a vehicle and title off my property without cash in hand. No one gets a title, no one gets anything, until I have CASH. So there's no way some third party trucker is going to leave with my vehicle. Too much can happen in between. That title will be dated, too - plates removed, etc. I've seen too many vehicles go back and forth and things happen. I've seen cars damaged during trucking and then say they picked it up that way.
Give me personal face-to-face any day.

 

[Shackleton]

For me, the only tough decision is giving up the Gobi color. I wish Gobi or Gator was available with the 21s. I was waiting for enough used gladiators to be available because I swore id never buy a new vehicle. The price of them used compared to how much they are taking off new is a joke. Bought my 21 Rubi for less than any used Rubi I could find in my area with comparable packages, so why wouldn't I? if you can get a good offer for yours and really want the Rubicon, go for it. I've never had a vehicle I would consider "loaded" but man these options are awesome. I think I have everything except for the safety packages and diesel and I love every option. I wheel mine so I the all the rubi features was a must for me. Good luck

Curious where you take yours off road? I’m a first timer with a Jeep and can’t say I’m super interested in anything other than the beach but I must live pretty close to you and am curious what the good spots are in MA

 

[Shackleton]

yeah man, its a tough decision to consider due to the great returns of trade values at the moment. KBB shows mine being worth more at the moment than I paid.

I checked mine last night. Sport S Max tow Gobi with 8500 miles worth more than I paid. I could be talked into Sarge iF the numbers worked but I haven’t even gone down the road of seeing what is out there.

 

[Trauma PA]

Ok so I have had my 20 Gobi S (max tow) now for a little under a year. Just hit 5k miles.
I have a few tiny mods on it currently. Level with rubicon suspension goodies. 35's, wheels, etc. Nothing crazy to put on take or take off.

With the way trade values have been lately, it makes me consider looking into trading to a 21 Rubicon.
I would have originally went Rubicon, but at the time I was looking, i didnt really have the fundage and did see any reason to when the max tow offered the 4.10's and wider axle etc.

I did regret not getting the LED package (though i do have non factory LED stuff now), the 8.4, and cold weather.

I love my Gobi color, but Sarge and Nacho catch my eye. I like the thoughts of the extras i did not get, and having sway bar disconnect and lockers. (I know I can add to my Sport S). I also still need to have the steering TSB done.

I am having a tough time deciding if I should look into trade at this time. OR keep my Gobi color that i like.
I am just afraid that no dealers will do much negotiation with lot vehicles.

I would think about ordering, but not sure how that would work with me having a trade or trying to predict the future value / incentives when the vehicle is ready for pickup. That is why lot ready ones entertain me.

Thoughts?

Gobi is a sharp color. I haven’t seen many out in the wild either so I still think not only is it sharp, but it’s still rather unique to the JT population. I’d honestly have a hard time giving up Gobi. Sounds like you’ve got a nice set up already. Tough call for sure. Good luck with your decision.

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