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I went with led from headlight revolution for headlights, taillights and DRL super bright
how are the taillights, did you have to add a resistor or was it part of the bulb?
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how are the taillights, did you have to add a resistor or was it part of the bulb?
I had added Taillights to mine, the 3157 sylvanias but I removed them because they didn't seem much brighter than stock. I didn't have to add resistors either, they plugged in and we're good. If you do it go with the Red instead of a clear led bulb, but I tried both and it didn't seem much brighter to me, red may have been slightly brighter. I returned them to advance and may just black my taillights out after I get my taillight guards built.
 

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Please, please don't be that guy with LED bulbs in a halogen reflector headlight. Those are 90% of the vehicles you see going down the road blinding the shit out of people. They don't have the proper light cutoff like any DOT approved LED headlight. Brake, tail, and turns are ok since they're reflected through a defused lens but headlights are specificially designed to throw light.

Halogen reflectors are designed to focus the light of a bulb to a given point, proper LED headlights are designed to disperse the light across a given plane. Just look at the shot above and compare it to mine below. LED bulbs still give hot spots and uneven light while the OEM lights are very uniform. The hot spot in the center of my shot is the factory driver side halogen vs the factory LED passenger at about ~30ft. The light uniformity and brightness is not even close to the factory LED lights.

I just did the factory LED conversion and it's worth every penny and then some. A quick test drive with one of each and it's absurd how much clearer the LED side is and how much further down the road things illuminate.

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Ok so that's 30 feet the shot above I did was at the end of my driveway which is 70 feet long and I was sitting half in the road so at least 60 ft and it looks pretty comparable or maybe even slightly brighter than the stock ones you have. Plus I see a clean cutoff at 60 feet out. I have never been flashed in over 4 months since installing them.
 

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@Jeeperjamie ... thats f'n good for led bulbs. WF sn? I've added led bulbs to my oem jk housing and it turned the lights to flood lights. I switched it up to JWS and now i have the gladiator, i saved the JWS heads/fogs. Thinking about selling the set and going Oracle 9".
Again...for led bulbs, thats pretty good.
 

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@Jeeperjamie ... thats f'n good for led bulbs. WF sn? I've added led bulbs to my oem jk housing and it turned the lights to flood lights. I switched it up to JWS and now i have the gladiator, i saved the JWS heads/fogs. Thinking about selling the set and going Oracle 9".
Again...for led bulbs, thats pretty good.
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No wonder it sounds familiar. I go by dawhitesjku there.
I'm surprised that with your #2 post with your leds. No matter how i adjusted the led bulbs on my jk, it was spreading light everywhere. Not yours... you got a good set.
 

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No wonder it sounds familiar. I go by dawhitesjku there.
I'm surprised that with your #2 post with your leds. No matter how i adjusted the led bulbs on my jk, it was spreading light everywhere. Not yours... you got a good set.

Yeah the JKs are a different animal as far as the stock reflectors, never could get a decent setup other than cibies. I ran the Tuff Plus 7" ones on my JK and if they made the Tuff Plus ones in a 9" I'd have a set on my JT, IMO they don't make a better 7" Headlight.
 

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I have swapped out the stock halogen white for a yellow bulb, halogen. The difference was, well, night and day. Street signage really pops now, fantastically awesome in fog and rain. Keeps the halogen reflector for proper beam pattern AND a lot of folks pull over to let me pass. I suppose they think I am an emergency vehicle. Any one old enough to remember the Euro Cibie lights? Thems the ones.
 

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Hey @DeezJT it's good to hear from a fellow WF guy, I remember you from over there. Good Times!!!!
 

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Ok so that's 30 feet the shot above I did was at the end of my driveway which is 70 feet long and I was sitting half in the road so at least 60 ft and it looks pretty comparable or maybe even slightly brighter than the stock ones you have. Plus I see a clean cutoff at 60 feet out. I have never been flashed in over 4 months since installing them.
You can't compare brightness in two pictures without using the same exposure settings. Mine is taken in a well lit parking garage, yours was taken in your driveway at night so of course your lights will appear brighter. Either way, quality of light, not raw brightness, is what matters with headlights.

I'm failing to understand your point though... hot spots are going to be more pronounced at shorter distances so further away, the light from my headlights will be even cleaner. I have a nice even sheet of light that comes into focus at any distance while you have a serious hot spot dead center even at 60-70ft. That's the nature of reflector vs dedicated LED headlights and it's people in that spot (e.g. anyone you follow) getting lit up. People don't even bother to flash anymore because people like you are everywhere and have zero respect for other drivers.
 

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You can't compare brightness in two pictures without using the same exposure settings. Mine is taken in a well lit parking garage, yours was taken in your driveway at night so of course your lights will appear brighter. Either way, quality of light, not raw brightness, is what matters with headlights.

I'm failing to understand your point though... hot spots are going to be more pronounced at shorter distances so further away, the light from my headlights will be even cleaner. I have a nice even sheet of light that comes into focus at any distance while you have a serious hot spot dead center even at 60-70ft. That's the nature of reflector vs dedicated LED headlights and it's people in that spot (e.g. anyone you follow) getting lit up. People don't even bother to flash anymore because people like you are everywhere and have zero respect for other drivers.
That's a totally inaccurate statement. I had my wife drive at me while I was in our BMW 440I at night and on a dark road to test your theory as well as get behind me and it does not blind or get in your eyes. Once adjusted they sit on the rear of a car/truck just like any stock headlight would, and I was in a much lower BMW 440i. I'm not saying that yours aren't better, I would hope they would be for $600+ a set but they aren't your only option anymore. Bulbs have come a long way. I used to to be a bulb basher as well, and I figured I'd give these a shot since I was able to grab a set from a forum member for $20. They are a huge upgrade over stock and plenty bright so you can see driving down the road, about all you really need.

Here's another picture of kinda what you get on the road in a well lit parking area


Jeep Gladiator To LED upgrade or not LED...that should never be a question. MVIMG_20200312_055401


And one off the hill in front of my work

Jeep Gladiator To LED upgrade or not LED...that should never be a question. MVIMG_20200403_203049


If we can't agree that's a pretty clean beam.and cutoff then I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
 

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I have swapped out the stock halogen white for a yellow bulb, halogen. The difference was, well, night and day. Street signage really pops now, fantastically awesome in fog and rain. Keeps the halogen reflector for proper beam pattern AND a lot of folks pull over to let me pass. I suppose they think I am an emergency vehicle. Any one old enough to remember the Euro Cibie lights? Thems the ones.
Yep just mentioned the Cibies in the post above, now those are great headlights
 

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I love the factory LED's....great light distribution, the only issue is I keep getting flashes from opposing traffic that are not used to LED's
 

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how are the taillights, did you have to add a resistor or was it part of the bulb?
Nope it was plug and go. I wish I remembered which ones because first set did not fit. The HR guys got it taken care of. I sold them to a JL guy
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