When will there be a Gladiator 4xe ? ? ? ?

[ShadowsPapa]

The weight of all electrics is a major concern for OHVs. Not only do they put more psi on their tire footprints in loose materials like sand, where float is the key factor to not being stuck, but they also bring garbage truck class weight to trails and contradict the whole tread lightly concept.

And that's why I say they won't be for everyone, but will certainly have their place and demand.
People seem to believe that all Gladiators or Wranglers, or even 40% of them, will end up off-road.
That's not the case at all. I'd bet, especially after talking to a couple of dealers about this very topic over the last few days - that only 10% actually see "off road" where things like sand and "treading lightly" matter.
The dealers are finding it's the thought of the capability that is selling them - even though few ever use them that way.
Look just at this forum - of the members here, how many actually truly use these where the capabilities are NEEDED vs. wanted? And this isn't even a valid sampling because the more hard-core off-roaders tend to hang out in groups like this, so the percentage of those on fakebook groups or forums will be higher than just the general population of owners.

I fully agree that the weight thing is bad for sand, or where you want to not dig ruts and make marks, but leave as if you were never there, taking only pictures. I agree - that extra weight is not good, but you are talking a fraction of all Gladiator owners.

I bet 99.5% of all Iowa Gladiator owners never see more than a muddy field or deep snow, ice, drifts, with their trucks. The 4xe might be a seller here.

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[j.o.y.ride]

And that's why I say they won't be for everyone, but will certainly have their place and demand.
People seem to believe that all Gladiators or Wranglers, or even 40% of them, will end up off-road.
That's not the case at all. I'd bet, especially after talking to a couple of dealers about this very topic over the last few days - that only 10% actually see "off road" where things like sand and "treading lightly" matter.
The dealers are finding it's the thought of the capability that is selling them - even though few ever use them that way.
Look just at this forum - of the members here, how many actually truly use these where the capabilities are NEEDED vs. wanted? And this isn't even a valid sampling because the more hard-core off-roaders tend to hang out in groups like this, so the percentage of those on fakebook groups or forums will be higher than just the general population of owners.

I fully agree that the weight thing is bad for sand, or where you want to not dig ruts and make marks, but leave as if you were never there, taking only pictures. I agree - that extra weight is not good, but you are talking a fraction of all Gladiator owners.

I bet 99.5% of all Iowa Gladiator owners never see more than a muddy field or deep snow, ice, drifts, with their trucks. The 4xe might be a seller here.

Iowa is one of the absolute lowest states in terms of EV adoption... by both net sales and % of cars sold. Don't think you'll be seeing too many 4xe Gladiators in Iowa.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Iowa is one of the absolute lowest states in terms of EV adoption... by both net sales and % of cars sold. Don't think you'll be seeing too many 4xe Gladiators in Iowa.

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So there's several worse LOL

It's a matter of "push" - look at Iowa as far as what sort of state it is - rural, farm, and - I won't get political, compared to the states with the most - CA, for example - few row crop (heavy farming, but food crops for the most part if I am correct) and the push from leadership there.

Look at the map below and see where the concentration of EVs is - I can tell you right now who runs the county board of supervisors and where the colleges are just by the EV numbers. I am NOT saying that's a bad thing or negative - just that when there's some peer pressure or different attitudes, things change. It's not uncommon to see EVs around here. Before I retired over 5 years ago, a co-worker drove a Volt and loved it (and it looked cool, sporty)
The counties with the fewest are very rural, all farm, small towns and no charging stations around.
There's also the situation of homes in Iowa - a lot of places, small towns and so on, detached garages, no way to charge their vehicle without spending a whole lot of money for upgrades.
There's a lot that factors into it. I could plug in right now - but only because our detached garage was built by a contractor who thought ahead and rigged our basement to double as his workshop, (wired like crazy) and he put 3 conduits between the house and garage, run under the concrete up through the floor. there would be no way to do that today if he hadn't run that conduit when he built the house. It would cost thousands. But I have 60 amp 220 and welder outlets in the garage and backfeed our generator to the house via the garage electric so I could charge a fleet of EVs out there. In Iowa, though, many homes can't do that, they have lights and maybe a couple of 110 outlets at best.
You have to look at the whole big picture.
It will happen - even the media around here is talking more EVs in our future, and saying the trend is growing here.
(I'm all for it - cheap power, wind energy, etc. in Iowa. It's cheaper to charge your car here than in most other states)

On the other hand - our electricity - over 50% comes from wind and renewables.

Iowa by the numbers
- Percentage of registered vehicles that are electric: 0.06%
- Total registered electric vehicles: 2,260 (#37 overall)
- Number of statewide charging stations: 280 (#34 overall)
- Number of charging ports per 100 EVs: 25.8 (#14 overall)

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