Winch Power Options

[BanjoBani]

The winches on Power Wagons are wired directly to the battery from the factory. Both the positive and negative cables. That service rep is blowing sunshine up your butt.

lol. Thanks for the heads up

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[BanjoBani]

The auxiliary battery Is not like a dual battery (just for start/stop mostly), there are set ups for a dual system. But it’s not just bolt on, so you’re going to need help if you can’t install a winch (not judging, just an observation), if a winch may void the battery, a dual system definitely will (for this dealer), more invasive. Dealer service reps typically don’t know anything and will say anything (And act like they do know something).

Yeah I know the aux battery is not the same as a dual battery… I was just mentioning them because it is not unheard of to have multiple batteries for whatever purposes.

But yeah I would have help installing the battery.

And Yes, and I wondered the same about adding another battery… isn’t that the same or maybe worse as wiring the winch? It would have to not be hooked up to anything but the winch really, but then how would I keep it charged?

I will just have them finish the warranty work and then take the jeep elsewhere or get someone to help with the winch.

 

[articcatbill]

They would have to prove that the part caused the failure:

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (MMWA) protects consumers by ensuring warranties are clear, straightforward, and enforced fairly, especially in the context of vehicles. It prevents manufacturers from voiding a warranty simply because a car was serviced at an independent shop or because aftermarket parts were used, unless those parts directly caused the failure.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

especially in the context of vehicles.

Nitpicking, but it was originally aimed at things like computer upgrades as well.

But the warranty bit is usually misunderstood and misquoted - when you add accessories, it's not the same as using an oil filter from WalMart or replacing your wiper blades or using a battery from Amazon and so on.

With the winch, you aren't swapping out factory parts for a quality aftermarket part, and if installed incorrectly, you can really mess things up, or if the winch actually has a problem, it can mess things up.

Still the point is - they need to show that it was a faulty installation, the winch was faulty, or otherwise caused the issue.
Not sure what they'd do other than perhaps not warrant a battery or troubleshooting charging system issues because some idiot put things directly on the negative battery post instead of on top of the IBS. THAT can be a problem with a dopey install.
So there are ways you can mess up - and I've seen some doozies over the decades.

 

[BanjoBani]

Nitpicking, but it was originally aimed at things like computer upgrades as well.

But the warranty bit is usually misunderstood and misquoted - when you add accessories, it's not the same as using an oil filter from WalMart or replacing your wiper blades or using a battery from Amazon and so on.

With the winch, you aren't swapping out factory parts for a quality aftermarket part, and if installed incorrectly, you can really mess things up, or if the winch actually has a problem, it can mess things up.

Still the point is - they need to show that it was a faulty installation, the winch was faulty, or otherwise caused the issue.
Not sure what they'd do other than perhaps not warrant a battery or troubleshooting charging system issues because some idiot put things directly on the negative battery post instead of on top of the IBS. THAT can be a problem with a dopey install.
So there are ways you can mess up - and I've seen some doozies over the decades.

Yes, that completely makes sense. I think what confused me was that I was actually inquiring about having the winch installed at the Jeep dealership. But the issue could be that it is not technically a Jeep part and just wanted me to know it could be an issue.

 

[MikeNH]

They would have to prove that the part caused the failure:

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (MMWA) protects consumers by ensuring warranties are clear, straightforward, and enforced fairly, especially in the context of vehicles. It prevents manufacturers from voiding a warranty simply because a car was serviced at an independent shop or because aftermarket parts were used, unless those parts directly caused the failure.

The dealer will look for any reason to deny your claim and if it makes it to Jeep, they can make your life miserable fighting it. If it is a factory warranty, many of us signed arbitration agreements when we bought our trucks (knowingly or not) which works in their favor. Regardless, they have better lawyers than any of us and can bleed you dry. This story is 20 years old now but I share it every time someone acts like Magnusson-Moss is some simple thing:

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/163-0512-chevy-duramax-engine-update

If you have a third party warranty, all bets are off as that is not a warranty in the eyes of the law. They could literally deny you for wearing a shirt they don’t like.

 

[BanjoBani]

Yeah. It’s the Jeep warranty. I only have a little bit left on it, but I wanted to keep it until it runs out.

 

[Metalhead]

On my grand cherokee I have a winch wired up to the battery posts under the hood (battery is under passenger seat) connected to a 300 amp resetable circuit breaker so I can disconnect it from battery. Works fine for me. Will be using the same setup on the gladiator but hope to be able to find a bigger circuit breaker.

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