Winter winch

[RudeJeepin]

Maybe we need a thread called summer winch.....



There's only a couple inches of rope exposed on most winches. Guess I don't see that as huge, either. Pretty easily covered or protected, I'd suspect. Mine is in a garage when not being used/drive/out and about.
Maybe someone can print a cover for that section and solve the problem?

With a little google-fu you could find solutions for that already on the interwebs.

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[bleda2002]

Synthetic is better for most use cases. It's way lighter, significantly safer, doesn't tear up your hands as much, and is easily spliced. Also works with the snatch rings which are also smaller, lighter, and easier to carry than the traditional snatch blocks.

Make sure you get a couple rope protectors Incase you need to drag it over or around something. Also never use kinetic line as a winch extension as they do store energy unlike a properly stretched/wound winch specific line which holds very little.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Synthetic needs to be protected from UV rays, doesn't take abuse well and needs to be kept clean.

I agree, of course, with all that, but I have a question related to that -
If a person were to want to actually clean it, say it was in gravel and mud or even just dust/dirt (which of course = grit) many cleaning agents are likely a no-no - how about things like simple green? (of course letting things dry thoroughly)
and has anyone had issues with mildew or similar?
It gets so seriously humid here, I've had vinyl seats show spots of gray and book bindings spot as well with stuff I assumed was mildew. It's a reason I have to keep my shop AC running - we get 100% humidity and when things are cool then you drive through that muggy air, you get condensation.

 

[bleda2002]

I agree, of course, with all that, but I have a question related to that -
If a person were to want to actually clean it, say it was in gravel and mud or even just dust/dirt (which of course = grit) many cleaning agents are likely a no-no - how about things like simple green? (of course letting things dry thoroughly)
and has anyone had issues with mildew or similar?
It gets so seriously humid here, I've had vinyl seats show spots of gray and book bindings spot as well with stuff I assumed was mildew. It's a reason I have to keep my shop AC running - we get 100% humidity and when things are cool then you drive through that muggy air, you get condensation.

I clean mine after mudding. You basically take big bucket of dish soapy water and then push the line together to let the dirt out from between it, then move to the next section. I put the clean section in a clean bucket of just water to rinse it. Takes me about 15 minutes to do 80 feet and then I hook up to the wife's jeep and drag it across the cul du sac with the parking brake on.

Never had mildew issues on it yet despite being in Florida.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I clean mine after mudding. You basically take big bucket of dish soapy water and then push the line together to let the dirt out from between it, then move to the next section. I put the clean section in a clean bucket of just water to rinse it. Takes me about 15 minutes to do 80 feet and then I hook up to the wife's jeep and drag it across the cul du sac with the parking brake on.

Never had mildew issues on it yet despite being in Florida.

Thanks - just what I was looking for.

In my case, my wife would have a real fit "not with MY Jeep" - I can hear it now.
So I use my car with the brake partially set, and pull it backwards up the driveway incline.

 

[SD Rider]

I'd be real leary about that hawse fairlead. Those look Ike pretty square or super tight radius edges on it, not good for the rope.

Will keep an eye out. Bumper should arrive in the next couple weeks....will be mounting it and pretensioning the lead at that point. Already have my sights on a fairlead/front plate mount.

 

[Sandevino]

I tension mine in a parking lot. The high school near us has a large parking lot with an incline and a light pole with a 4' round concrete pillar I use as an anchor point.

I throw the tree protector around the pillar, soft shackle the ends, hook up to the shackle and pull the jeep up the hill.

Aside from the curious looks and occasional police officer making sure I'm not doing anything nefarious it works great. Most of the police in the area I've known for years so they just pass on by.

 

[RudeJeepin]

I agree, of course, with all that, but I have a question related to that -
If a person were to want to actually clean it, say it was in gravel and mud or even just dust/dirt (which of course = grit) many cleaning agents are likely a no-no - how about things like simple green? (of course letting things dry thoroughly)
and has anyone had issues with mildew or similar?

As already suggested, I'd use a mild hand dish soap like dawn and the 2 bucket method. But not s soap ment for a dishwashers, they are pretty harsh in comparison.
I also wouldn't use Simple Green as it's actually a pretty harsh chemical.
Those harsher ones might be fine, but I also don't want my hands in them that much.

My synthetic extension lives a pretty rough life, I use it, abuse it, and put it away wet all the time. It stays in the truck box all year and is fine here in the Pacific Northwest, no issues with mildew or whatnot.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I also wouldn't use Simple Green as it's actually a pretty harsh chemical.

Harsh? Pet safe, I've washed almost everything with it from cars and trucks to tools to pretty much anything that comes across my bench.

Would never even think of dishwasher stuff - if it's strong enough to cut baked-on stuff without even touching it physically, it's pretty strong.
Besides, I switched over to the packets - less waste, less trash, recycle the containers.

 

[Max-t]

I have the badlands apex 12000 like probably most. something to consider.
I have used it a bunch a times….
Last time I used it I had to use it “hard”. Full duty cycle. (Which is only a few minutes) Not over cycled.
next time I unspooled my winch…. The synthetic line was all melted from, I assume, the brake. Cheap rope, cheap winch. The ropes are all made of the same stuff regardless of price though. BUT a new rope of similar quality is less than 100 bucks. I don’t know what I’d do if I had this on my Cummins 2500 and every pull was hard.

 

[RudeJeepin]

I have the badlands apex 12000 like probably most. something to consider.
I have used it a bunch a times….
Last time I used it I had to use it “hard”. Full duty cycle. (Which is only a few minutes) Not over cycled.
next time I unspooled my winch…. The synthetic line was all melted from, I assume, the brake. Cheap rope, cheap winch. The ropes are all made of the same stuff regardless of price though. BUT a new rope of similar quality is less than 100 bucks. I don’t know what I’d do if I had this on my Cummins 2500 and every pull was hard.

Not all ropes are made the same. Some have the first section made with a heat resistant material to help combat this.
Or you can get a sleeve that is designed to protect the first layer from heat.
There are options out there, just need to do a little digging.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Not all ropes are made the same. Some have the first section made with a heat resistant material to help combat this.
Or you can get a sleeve that is designed to protect the first layer from heat.
There are options out there, just need to do a little digging.

When I respooled mine the last time, I paid closer attention and saw the inner-most layer to be a bit different, and red in color.
Should have gotten a pic - got a picture of everything else that day, including my finger.

 

[Max-t]

Not all ropes are made the same. Some have the first section made with a heat resistant material to help combat this.
Or you can get a sleeve that is designed to protect the first layer from heat.
There are options out there, just need to do a little digging.

I just did the digging. Having a little sheath doesn’t help (I’ve only ever seen them with this protective sheath actually) It didn’t just melt the base layer it melted any coil against the right side. Not just the first wrap. Though the entire first wrap is pretty crunchy. Less so where the heat “protective” sock is. It’s baking it. Plenty of others out there with similar experiences…. I don’t know if it spans to expensive winches or if they cool better. My previous was a pto capstain. No heat there. My. Jk cheapo winch never had to do much work cuz my defender was much more set up for farm and trail maintenance.

it’s a conundrum. Cuz I’m not putting a rope that cost more than my winch on there that claims to be made of the same chemical and HF’s. But I know any Amazon rope isn’t going to be magically better either. So…. Just gunna be careful and keep a spare.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Harsh? Pet safe, I've washed almost everything with it from cars and trucks to tools to pretty much anything that comes across my bench.

Would never even think of dishwasher stuff - if it's strong enough to cut baked-on stuff without even touching it physically, it's pretty strong.
Besides, I switched over to the packets - less waste, less trash, recycle the containers.

Try letting some shiney aluminum or stainless steel soak in Simple Green and see what happens.
There are definitely worse things out there, and yes I use Simple Green my fair share. But I'm also selective on what I use it on.

Don't get me started on those dishwasher packets, or the laundry soap pods. That outer housing doesn't always break down that well. We've had issues with them in our septic system. We've gone back to regular liquid for both.

But I digress and will stop with the thread hijack.


Among other things, my Gladiator is my tow vehicle. Which means it could also see time as a recovery vehicle for our toys in the sand dunes.

Part of the reason I went with steel cable. Sand will kill synthetic rope. I've had my cable buried in the sand trying to pull a rig back up to the top of a tree chute. You want to keep the tow rig back away from the edge so the cable naturally digs into the sand at the break over point at the top of the hill.

 

[Max-t]

Try letting some shiney aluminum or stainless steel soak in Simple Green and see what happens.
There are definitely worse things out there, and yes I use Simple Green my fair share. But I'm also selective on what I use it on.

Don't get me started on those dishwasher packets, or the laundry soap pods.

Yea I’ve never heard anyone associate laundry/dish pods with conserving anything but maybe space.

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