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Would the rest fogs they work if wired directly to the front fog lights themselves? They wouldn’t be independently selectable but if i need my front fogs on, I want the rear ones on as well.
yeah, you could tap into them so they work as you described. You would just need to know the amp draw of the added rear fogs and make sure the fuse can handle it
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So on my PPV there was no foglights and it was not turned on in the BCM. So I ran a harness from the lights to the fuse box > and used an add a fuse, jumped off from the park lights to power pin 86 at the relay(had to open the relay and solder pin 86 to the add a fuse) to make them work w/o the reflash. It was a 15 amp circuit and the LED bulbs in the foglights were only rated for like 5 amps. Its been 2 years now and no issue.

In theory you could or should be able to run the add a fuse off from the foglight fuse to provide power and then ground everything off the frame. Perk to this would be keeping that extra AUX switch open for other accessories and when ever you turn the foglights on, it should fire the rear foglights w/o issue or need for headaches/playing with the BCM.

Being retired Army, we like the KISS approach....Keep It Simple Stupid; AND would minimize buying extra stuff/shit.

Please feel free to add your thoughts and trouble shoot this; I'm a big boy, you're not going to offend me. And the weak sarcasm from some of the members here makes me giggle thinking they're hardcore mofos........sorry but those that make the most noise are paying people/shops to work in their rigs. Contribute in a honest manner or move on in a silent manner...... if not you're just a troll.
 

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FYI this will also work if you happen to have picked up the oracle integrated rear bumper LEDs. No issues with it being wired into the BCM and you can use the fog light switch to turn them on/off

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@mjoneil This write up was awesome: Thank you!

You inspired me, after much thought about adding the rear fogs, to use the BCM output for my aftermarket driving/fog lights.

I tapped into the BCM C6 pin (I just happened to have 1.2mm TE MCON receptacles) and am using that pin to switch a relay to actually power the lights. Now I don't have to use an AUX switch or a 3rd party switch: it's built right into the JT!

Appreciate the information

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Hello @mjoneil !
This post was very precious for me here in France with a US Gladiator in my hands. So I worked on your post my self, I have bought all parts you have described and have working with a friend to install the fog lights and wire on the BCM. The BCM didn't work very well after (no wipers, night lights only L front and R rear, and other little things). I suppose the engine was not full OFF during the working.
I bought another new BCM in USA, put in the truck with my local JEEP dealershop here in France. Every thing is using right on the truck, and still have to finish these rear fog lights install.

I just have received the Ztazer mini to change the order:
- I have tried Fogs En YES + Fogs drop YES + Fogs led YES, no result
- I have tried in the same order YES + NO + YES, no result
- I have tried YES + NO + NO, no result
I need help please. I know a german dealershop which can do the working, but it is about 1000km from my home... No french society is right to do it around my place

Thanks a lot. Oliver
 
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Hey @mjoneil do you think this can be done on a wrangler jl ? but the looks of it the BCM pins are the same, the only portion I would have to rework is a harness to connect my own fog lights.

Also do you know how much amps/v are available from the BCM pins ?
 

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@mjoneil this writeup was really well done , so thank you!

I’m Not a Gladiator owner, have a 2018 Grand Cherokee WK2, but with shared parts and architecture across Mopar it should be similar.

I purchased the OEM rear fog light kit, which instructs you to tap into the front fog light circuit. I don’t want it like that, so I planned to wire an auxiliary switch for it. But then I ran across this thread and some info on Jscan website that I may be able to tap into the BCM and enable settings instead, for a more-OEM-like install.

http://jscan.net/grand-cherokee-2014-2020-light-conversion-us-eu-specification/

So my first question is, the foglights have an overlay wiring harness (which I have routed up into the cab) which only have two wires (one ground, one power supply), that feeds both lights. I assume this means I really only need to tap into one of the two BCM pins (and activate that particular pin).

I have not wired anything into my BCM yet, but I did try to activate the rear fog light settings last night. It resulted in the multiple button pushes to deactivate the front fog lights (vs stock was one push on, one push off), but no indicator on the instrument cluster. With direct sunlight/flashlight I can *see* the ghost outline of the rear fog light indicator, so I know it *exists* on my instrument cluster. Do I actually need to have some power draw from BCM pin to get the indicator to light up, or is there some other setting I need to change? I kind of want to make sure it will illuminate before committing to wiring to my BCM.

Thank you!
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