Since the JT is NOT considered a true 1/2 Ton

[Geoarch]

Remember what your priest said, "No more than two shakes. Any more is considered pleasure..."

Hey, get a hold of yourself.

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[Geoarch]

Omg, thats hilarious and completely illustrates the trend of modern trucks. They are cartoon trucks sold to adult kids that make engine rev noises with their mouths.

A guy with a F350 stopped to look at my JTR the other day. I asked him if he ever hauled anything in the bed. He looked at me like I have lobsters crawling out of my nose, then drove away.

 

[Geoarch]

Sure it does, but no bed. The gladiator is perfect for me (We have a Wrangler too). I can't carry rocks or dirt in the Wrangler, and with the tonneau on, I have more storage in a gladiator. What got me in a gladiator was that it has everything the Wrangler had, but was more practical for a homeowner, with the bed, and was only a little more expensive (back then). I got the gladiator because I wanted a jeep and a truck, at the same time. But I'm under no illusions that it's an f150. It's in the class of the Colorado/Tacoma/Ranger. A full size, it is not. But I test drove a Tacoma, too. I liked the gladiator better. Plus, convertible, of course, but you mentioned that.

Ditto, and I did have a TRDPro. No comparison.

 

[Geoarch]

What the hell is wrong with some of you guys?

If you don't like Ridgelines (and I'll bet nearly none of you ever owned one) then DON'T BUY a Ridgeline, easy peasy.

Too DAMN many negative cynical comments. World can do without anymore of those!

But, but CR says we've wasted our money!

 

[Geoarch]

I remember that one time I rolled into Home Depot on my motorcycle.

There were quite a few people standing around when I got off it. I only needed a box of decking screws but, I pulled a piece of paper out of my pocket and started 'reading' aloud, "Ok...two 4'x8' sheets of plywood, ten 2"x4"s, two 8' pieces of 1 1/2" PVC..."

I stopped there and looked around me. A couple of people were slack jawed ? but, most others were laughing

So, you're one of THOSE guys...

 

[Geoarch]

It's actually because a convertible version of a vehicle requires significant reinforcement, or the frame becomes too flexible, and handling and crash worthiness suffer. You can't just cut the top off of a non-convertible and have a convertible. It'll bend and flex too much. The roof provides a non-trivial amount of rigidity. For us, all of those rollbars are the part you can see, but there's more than that even. This is why the convertible version of nearly everything weighs a lot more. That extra weight isn't on the top, it's in reinforcement. On the gladiator or wrangler or bronco, there's also the removable doors. On a normal car, the doors provide structural rigidity. In the Jeep, all that rigidity has to come from elsewhere, so it doesn't crumple when the doors are off.

And the old Corvette example you used is because in 1963, crash standards were almost non-existent. You can't just cut the roof off now. It would crumple like a tin can and fail every crash test.

Regarding means to store the top, a convertible Mustang doesn't have a fancy means of storage. Power, yes, but no compartments to open, and no fancy storage. It just rests behind the back seat.

Well not exactly Chad: " You can't just cut the top off of a non-convertible and have a convertible." When I was stationed in Oahu in the 70s, I bought about a 60 Ford Fairlane station wagon, and in a fit of LSD, cut off the back and voila, had a convertible. Hawaii was lax back then. Did it flex? Yeah, probably, but I was just using to to haul my dive gear around the island. Ultimately, it threw a rod on H1, and I removed the plates and called a buddy to come pick us up. Those were the daze.

 

[NachoRuby]

Well not exactly Chad: " You can't just cut the top off of a non-convertible and have a convertible." When I was stationed in Oahu in the 70s, I bought about a 60 Ford Fairlane station wagon, and in a fit of LSD, cut off the back and voila, had a convertible. Hawaii was lax back then. Did it flex? Yeah, probably, but I was just using to to haul my dive gear around the island. Ultimately, it threw a rod on H1, and I removed the plates and called a buddy to come pick us up. Those were the daze.

Haha. I've thought about doing it to my old bug too. I guess I meant manufacturers can't just chop the roof off and call it a convertible anymore. As a DIY'er, you can do what you want. At your own risk. Besides, old cars like that won't pass any modern safety standards anyway.

 

[Teqsand]

But the winters are great.

Noo It's cold then

 

[Rusty PW]

A guy with a F350 stopped to look at my JTR the other day. I asked him if he ever hauled anything in the bed. He looked at me like I have lobsters crawling out of my nose, then drove away.

While........ do you have lobsters crawling out your nose? Inquiring minds would like to know.

 

[WILDHOBO]

The flaw in the logic there is every example you used was a 1000% more complicated system, a system that contain electric motors to fold, compartments to open, means to store the top... if the tops on those cars were made like jeep tops, you couldn't justify the price increase

Strangely, the 1968 Corvette Base price was $4,320 for the convertible and $4,663 for the coupe

I disagree. It’s a jack knife. You can configure it in so many ways that traditional convertibles can’t. Even on a simple note, t-tops were more expensive than hard tops.

 

[Teqsand]

I disagree. It’s a jack knife. You can configure it in so many ways that traditional convertibles can’t. Even on a simple note, t-tops were more expensive than hard tops.

Basically 4 ways, and t tops were not that much more.... but it's ok, we keep helping jeep justify the higher costs and they will keep doing it, the customer is always right...

 

[Geoarch]

Haha. I've thought about doing it to my old bug too. I guess I meant manufacturers can't just chop the roof off and call it a convertible anymore. As a DIY'er, you can do what you want. At your own risk. Besides, old cars like that won't pass any modern safety standards anyway.

Ha, ha. Just kidding you, but it did spark that memory. I paid $75 for that car. When a GI was rotating back to the mainland, these cars would pass on to the next unfortunate guy.

 

[Geoarch]

While........ do you have lobsters crawling out your nose? Inquiring minds would like to know.

I stole that from Ralphie in "The Christmas Story", one of my favorite films.

 

[Geoarch]

Noo It's cold then

That's what my daughter says. She lives in Alpine in east San Diego County. I live at 5460 ft in elevation in the high desert. We go down to 6 degrees last winter. That's cold for this San Diego born boy.

 

[Teqsand]

That's what my daughter says. She lives in Alpine in east San Diego County. I live at 5460 ft in elevation in the high desert. We go down to 6 degrees last winter. That's cold for this San Diego born boy.

I do dumb shit in the winter too... this is Mojave desert where I live

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