Is it possible to "print" these parts?

[bleda2002]

The only issue I see with printing this is that you'd need to finish them a bit with some sanding and possibly cleaning up the thin holes. Other than that you can probably print them in any color you want for a few cents each.

There are companies that will 3d print your design for you and you can easily turn that in to a 3d model using something like tinkercad. It lets you import the picture then scale it using known dimension and set the thickness. Maybe 30 minutes of work?

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[ShadowsPapa]

The only issue I see with printing this is that you'd need to finish them a bit with some sanding and possibly cleaning up the thin holes. Other than that you can probably print them in any color you want for a few cents each.

There are companies that will 3d print your design for you and you can easily turn that in to a 3d model using something like tinkercad. It lets you import the picture then scale it using known dimension and set the thickness. Maybe 30 minutes of work?

Looking to go another route now if can get a good scale drawing......CAD
They had some good suggestions for better results.

 

[bleda2002]

Looking to go another route now if can get a good scale drawing......CAD
They had some good suggestions for better results.

They're still going to use something similar to the software above (just probably a better version). If you can get a perfect 90 degree top down picture next to a ruler on a plain contrasting surface, that would make it trivial because they can import your picture and not have to actually model any of it just scale it up.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That is pretty thorough, should be more than enough to get a good model started.

I'm driving back home from my current job in VA tomorrow, so I should have a model by Saturday most likely.

Thanks much. Let me know if any other detail is needed or to double-check anything.

It looks like these fall right into the thickness of the G10 at .063 - that's right in the middle of those I measured.
I took apart a NOS wiper today to refresh for a very rare 401 4 speed low miles AMX a guy is restoring so I can measure one that's never seen the dark of an engine bay but I'm confident the thickness is fine.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

They're still going to use something similar to the software above (just probably a better version). If you can get a perfect 90 degree top down picture next to a ruler on a plain contrasting surface, that would make it trivial because they can import your picture and not have to actually model any of it just scale it up.

They want a ready-to-go file in DXF, DWG, EPS or Adobe Illustrator file format. Not a picture.

(Plus if I had such a file I could compare it to the real part before submitting it and know it would be right the first time.)

 

[bleda2002]

They want a ready-to-go file in DXF, DWG, EPS or Adobe Illustrator file format. Not a picture.

(Plus if I had such a file I could compare it to the real part before submitting it and know it would be right the first time.)

The first 2 are already modeled files, the 2nd 2 are actually pictures just in vector format. Aka they're going to import your picture to turn them in the cad files.

 

[Cooper_D]

Ok what I am suggesting might not work for your situation, however it might help others.

Here in Ohio our county library has a room filled with modern technology:

• 3D Printers
• 3D Scanners
• Audio Recording & Editing
• Button Maker
• CNC Milling Machine
• CNC Router
• Electronic Cutter
• Embroidery Machine
• Hand Tools & Additional Supplies
• Laptops & Software
• Laser Cutters & Engravers
• Photography
• Safety Gear
• Sewing Machine
• Soldering Stations
• Sublimation
• Vacuum Former
• Video Recording & Editing
• Vinyl Printer & Cutter

There are people there who are trained to help you learn and use the equipment.

As always there is always at least one person who is very knowledgeable in the equipment however finding someone who can suggest a material with properties similar to the original might be hard to find.

If you have a technical school nearby one of the teachers might push you in the right direction or even offer night course.

You have the knowledge and skills already to do the work by hand you just need modern equipment to speed up the process.

Perhaps what you need is a camera to make a 3 D image of an original part and the library might have the equipment to do that.

With what you know they might want to hire you to train others.

Hope this help.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The first 2 are already modeled files, the 2nd 2 are actually pictures just in vector format. Aka they're going to import your picture to turn them in the cad files.

LOL - that's a bit different than submitting a picture and them trying to get scale and other factors correct.

I know what they are - my son is in graphic design and I've worked with various formats for my wife's quilting machine CNC attachment.

With the correct format, they'll have all of the dimensions, everything to scale, no mistakes.
And again - they need those formats, I can't send a pic. It's being worked on.

 

[bleda2002]

LOL - that's a bit different than submitting a picture and them trying to get scale and other factors correct.

Its really not that different. The workflow can be as simple as taking a good picture that can be converted to the vector that then gets imported in to the modeling software. In the software you scale it add thickness and print. I've done this for dozens of hard to make parts myself on a home 3d printer. Usually gets me within half a mil for the finished print.

Industrial though they usually want the finished file as you mentioned as they don't want to be responsible for any errors. Good luck with the parts

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Industrial though they usually want the finished file as you mentioned as they don't want to be responsible for any errors. Good luck with the parts

I think you nailed it there. If the file is incorrect, it's on me, not them.
If I took and submitted an imperfect picture or one that was misleading in any way - again, problems.
Thanks.

 

[869 KPH]

Just putting my two cents in - I've used Ponoko with great results. Your parts are flat, which make them ideal for their service. Relatively inexpensive and tons of materials to pick from.

I wanted a way to wall-mount this amplifier and they were great to work with.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I'm looking at this material - a close match to the original material from what I can find.

The make-up of the material is likely as close as one can get with modern materials.

The thickness matches the original very well -

We'll submit the file/files and see what they say........ and go from there........

 

[BajaTym]

I don’t want to jump into someone else’s chili, it seems like you’ve got some experienced folks willing to help. But, if for whatever reason you need additional support, please let me know. I’ve got ‘some’ experience with 3D, CAD, illustration, and general technical drawing, and like to help when I can.

Again, I’m not trying to get into other folks chili, but I highly recommend that whoever does your final CAD drawing does so by taking measurements off the physical part and not the photos alone. Photos are fine for a reference, but unless you have a lot of experience with photography (correct lens, lighting, and setup), there will always be some distortion.

Lastly, I agree that based on your photos, the original looks like phenolic board/sheet (paper and resin). I have a CNC and laser cutter, personally, I’d try laser cutting them.

Looking forward to seeing the end product. Best of luck. ?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Photos are fine for a reference, but unless you have a lot of experience with photography (correct lens, lighting, and setup), there will always be some distortion.

Thanks.

Distortion is my trademark in photos LOL. With my uneven hands these days and the "essential tremor" (what the doc calls it, wish it wasn't essential) in my right hand, I'm lucky to get a shot with no blur and I'm sure that's only due to the technology in my phone, certainly not my photo skills.
Give me a restoration and it will be right - but drawing, photos, whatever, I can't even draw a straight line on a computer.
But I just mailed out a restoration that's going on a car that's had a Muscle Car Review magazine write-up done about it.

I did disassembly a NOS (new, old stock) wiper motor today I'm making look new again for a fellow doing a really high end restore on a rare car and it's a perfect example of the part I've been talking about.
If better shots are needed. It shows the original material pretty well, too.

This piece is really a lot like the material used to hold brush holders in some small DC motors - about the same material. It's fairly fragile. I have to be EXTREMELY careful removing rivets and get the new ones in just right or risk breaking off the tiny corners.
(I could actually use some of these rectangles, too, as the corners break off so very easily, even when really careful)

If I find a company or person that can cut some gaskets from a thin paper gasket material, I'm tired of cutting them out by tracing with an exacto knife and punching the holes, etc. What a pain - slows me down when I have so many of these to do.

Imagine cutting the gasket for this area out by hand each and every time...........

 

[BajaTym]

I can help with the gaskets, if no one else has already offered. I’ve sent you a PM.

— James

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