Leveling Blocks/spacers

[mrmo]

I put in a 3/4 spacer awhile back to help level up the front end. Right now im still around 1-1/2 low between the front to rear. I have a spacer kit from teraflex i believe, and thats a 1" + 1/2" spacers. I have the mopar 2" lift kit to go on shortly, and want to add these two blocks on top of the existing 3/4 block/spacer. Is it ok to do that, stack them? They have the locating tits/nibs on them to keep from moving around. Its a Willys w aftermarket bumper and winch

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[ShadowsPapa]

So you'd have:
3/4"
1"75"
1/2"
=
2 1/4"
+
2" lift for possible 4 1/2" lift up front - you're going to need to deal with shock length.

I'll let the real pros talk but I don't like the idea of going that height with 3 spacers on top of the spring. Leaves room for bad stuff to happen.
Plus, if I read correctly what pros say, you're going to need to address bump stops up front as well as shock length.
That 2" lift could give you 2.5" on top of the 2.25" of the spacer stack for a resulting 4.75" total lift.
A 2" lift is "nominal height difference" meaning it could lift more than 2". Some see as much as 2.5" depending on the weight of the truck it's going under.

OK, I step back and learn now.........

 

[Klicht87]

I have the 2" AEV lift which keeps the rake by raising the back 2" also. I've recently removed everything from the back -- 2" pucks up front with shock extensions and sway bar links from the aev kit. dead level. I can't say anything about the safety about stacking that many pucks but you will need longer shocks/ shock extension bracketrs, longer sway bar links and maybe an adjustable trackbar.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

but you will need longer shocks/ shock extension bracketrs, longer sway bar links and maybe an adjustable trackbar.

I'd say for sure on the track bar. A lift of 1.5 begins to shift the axle in a measurable way. He's talking over 4" of lift.
Sway bar links, shocks, bump stops, track bar, IMO.
I'm pushing it at 1.5 on mine. He's looking at almost triple that.
I'd go so far as to say he's looking at at least 4" lift - thus adjustable control arms and relocation brackets. He's going to really throw geometry off.

 

[Klicht87]

I'd say for sure on the track bar. A lift of 1.5 begins to shift the axle in a measurable way. He's talking over 4" of lift.
Sway bar links, shocks, bump stops, track bar, IMO.
I'm pushing it at 1.5 on mine. He's looking at almost triple that.
I'd go so far as to say he's looking at at least 4" lift - thus adjustable control arms and relocation brackets. He's going to really throw geometry off.

You're right, I looked passed how much he wanted to go. I would not go that much lift on a bunch of pucks. I just added an adjustable trackbar on my 2" lift -- didn't really need it but I knew my axle was off a little bit. He would need every suspension component replaced with adjustable.

 

[mrmo]

Do yall know what height i will get w 2" lift.? Ive heard 2, 2.25, 2.5...i just want it leveled up. I have adjustable track bars front and back and shock extenders also.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Do yall know what height i will get w 2" lift.? Ive heard 2, 2.25, 2.5...i just want it leveled up. I have adjustable track bars front and back and shock extenders also.

No one can tell you that. All they can give is a range or what it did on their own vehicle. There's another thread with a post that refers to a youtube video showing all of the various lift results from different companies under various models.
A 2" lift will generally give a minimum of 2". I've heard others report a lot more, some say 2" and that was it.
Even on a given level of Gladiator, it may vary because of options. It's why there are so many different spring numbers out there for each version of Gladiator. I know of 3 different spring numbers for Rubicon alone - likely there are more I don't know about.

 

[Klicht87]

Do yall know what height i will get w 2" lift.? Ive heard 2, 2.25, 2.5...i just want it leveled up. I have adjustable track bars front and back and shock extenders also.

A 2" spacer lift will yield 2". It's when you use different springs that yield not exactly what the lift states.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I wouldn't stack spacers with the Mopar kit. Everything that is included with the Mopar kit is designed for the height provided by the springs only.

I think you'd be better off with a different kit. Something that gives you the height in the front with springs, has adjustable arms, has sway bar links for the spring height, and correct length shocks for the spring height.

 

[mrmo]

I figured as much. Didnt want to install the lift, then have to tear back down to adjust the front height

 

[Mojohnny]

I'd say for sure on the track bar. A lift of 1.5 begins to shift the axle in a measurable way. He's talking over 4" of lift.
Sway bar links, shocks, bump stops, track bar, IMO.
I'm pushing it at 1.5 on mine. He's looking at almost triple that.
I'd go so far as to say he's looking at at least 4" lift - thus adjustable control arms and relocation brackets. He's going to really throw geometry off.

Interesting. I didn’t realize at 1.5” it would shift so much but I’m also completely inept with all this. Would you recommend an adjustable front track bar with the TF leveling kit? I’ve been looking at Core 4x4 control arms, track bars, end links, etc.

 

[mrmo]

My whole plan is Mopar 2", adjustable front and rear track bars, adjustable front and rear sway bar links, shock limiters, shock extenders if needed w leveling block, at least a 1-1/2 leveling block on front. I am ready running the Mopar long lower control arms, and am planning on the drop brackets from one of the suppliers. Im not planning on major fully extended suspension excursions. Just basic average overlanding and four wheeling. As long as the shocks dont hit the full extend point im not sure this will be an issue. Surprised at the responses. Im not the first to use these. And i have done this on several vehicles over the years.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

My whole plan is Mopar 2", adjustable front and rear track bars, adjustable front and rear sway bar links, shock limiters, shock extenders if needed w leveling block, at least a 1-1/2 leveling block on front. I am ready running the Mopar long lower control arms, and am planning on the drop brackets from one of the suppliers. Im not planning on major fully extended suspension excursions. Just basic average overlanding and four wheeling. As long as the shocks dont hit the full extend point im not sure this will be an issue. Surprised at the responses. Im not the first to use these. And i have done this on several vehicles over the years.

How much is the Mopar kit now? About $2k?

You already have the arms. You'll ditch the sway bar links. You're adding spacers to the front.

So spend $2k for:

1. Front springs that are too short.​

2. Rear springs that are good.​

3. Sway bar links you won't use.​

4. Control arms you already have.​

5. Shocks that need extensions in the front and are good for the rear.​

Then spend additional:

$500 for adjustable track bars​

$200 for adjustable sway bar links​

$50 for shock extensions​

$200 for brackets​

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$950 rough estimate​

You're at roughly $3k.

Or spend about $2k on the Clayton Ride Right with Bilstein 5100 shocks. It comes with adjustable track bars and sway bar links front and rear. Also comes with adjustable arms so you don't have to run brackets, though you still can. You'll get the right length shocks and won't need extension brackets. And this kit removes most of the rake so you don't really need a spacer in the front.

 

[mrmo]

I dont see a 2" ride right for the diesel, and its in the $3300-3500 range for the 2.5" w no shocks. I already got the lift for $1800, track bars for $190 each, adjustable sway bar links came w kit, if they are too short its very easy to rework them in the shop. Got the shock extensions for free from a guy at work. Will reuse the extended length lower arms and see how the castor measures out. If needed i will add the drop brackets. So i have $2400 in it including the leveling blocks. Will fabricate brackets w limiters.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I dont see a 2" ride right for the diesel, and its in the $3300-3500 range for the 2.5" w no shocks. I already got the lift for $1800, track bars for $190 each, adjustable sway bar links came w kit, if they are too short its very easy to rework them in the shop. Got the shock extensions for free from a guy at work. Will reuse the extended length lower arms and see how the castor measures out. If needed i will add the drop brackets. So i have $2400 in it including the leveling blocks. Will fabricate brackets w limiters.

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