Thoughts on this Carmax Gladiator?

[BAT]

For sure--but if I trade my Titan in I could get the money for the Jeep back within that 30 days but I would be unable to get the Titan back. I would have to buy something else at full retail. I love my Titan--had it since new and have taken really good care of it. If the Jeep doesn't work, i definitely want to keep the Nissan--so I need to find this out before making the trade......

Yep I bought a car for my daughter from Carmax and not sure why but something didn't seem right about it after driving it home. I didn't do the test drive my wife and daughter did. Things seemed off but Carmax swore they had done a complete check. It was a Nissan so I took it to the Nissan people and said ok you built this thing whats wrong here cause something seems not right to me. They called me later that day to say the car had been wrecked and pointed out the different things. I went back to carmax that evening and said this car has been wrecked. They didn't even question it. They processed the papers and cancelled the purchase and we ended up getting another vechile for her

Sponsored

 

[1stXMan]

I'm personally finding my trailering options to be limited with my 21 JTRD. Perhaps you'll be better off with the Pentastar. If I were in your shoes, I'd keep the Titan. My wife and I love the Jeep, but often find ourselves wanting for a bit more interior space. The V8 and full size truck is a little extra insurance when towing. The heart wants what it wants, but you'll be going from more than capable to just capable. It's a downgrade in my opinion.

 

[Koolcarguy]

Looking at replacing a 2020 Nissan Titan Pro4x(literally perfect condition/15k miles/every option) for light hauling/towing. I have a 2500lb(empty) travel trailer that I plan on towing. I found this 2022 Gladiator HA--They have it listed as an overland. Decent trade value of $39k on the Titan with the price of $47k on the Gladiator with 6k miles. Is this a fair deal financially or should I pass. I already paid $250 to lock up the Jeep and have it transferred to me to WI. At the very least, I'll be able to do the 24hr test drive to see how well the gladiator will pull my travel trailer. New 2023 HA models in the are were going to cost close to $20K and my truck OTD. The Carmax 2022 will be around $8800 and my truck OTD. Not too familiar with Gladiator values or trends-so I'm asking for some opinions. Thanks in advance--Gladiator link is here--

https://www.carmax.com/car/24204165

I think thats a fair deal I'd buy it

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I'm personally finding my trailering options to be limited with my 21 JTRD. Perhaps you'll be better off with the Pentastar. If I were in your shoes, I'd keep the Titan. My wife and I love the Jeep, but often find ourselves wanting for a bit more interior space. The V8 and full size truck is a little extra insurance when towing. The heart wants what it wants, but you'll be going from more than capable to just capable. It's a downgrade in my opinion.

I came from a Silverado - and don't consider it a downgrade as much as a downsize - which is exactly what I wanted. The back seat of the JT isn't really much smaller than the back seat in the Chevy was. My son is over 6' and says there's plenty of seating room back there.
Yeah, I miss the lower COG and wider stance at times, but if it was that critical, I'd have gone High Altitude or Rubicon to get the width.

I don't have the height of a camper any more - sold that a few years back, but do have the weight and 5,000 pounds isn't a bad tow.
Unless a person tows every month or more often, it's not a bad thing.

Unless one is absolutely totally stuck on their trailer and refuses to change that end in any way, then tailor the trailer to the tow rig if the tow rig is important.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Definitely like the looks of the High Altitude extras. This particular one with the sting grey paint with the gloss back accents is just a really sharp color combo in my eyes. The only think I can see changing is adding the satin black steel bumper and ditching the side steps for the gladiator rock rails--strictly an appearance preference. I priced a few of these at dealers locally--none of them came close to the deal for the 2022. They all seem to be at around double of the cost of the carmax gladiator. I just don't think that a year newer with 6000 miles less is worth financing another $8000. This one shows really well and the PO installed a really nice hard tonneau cover and spray in bed liner. That would save me another $1500 over buying the local 2023 models that didn't come with those options. I'll find out soon enough if this one is clean enough to warrant a purchase tho. Thanks for the advice with this and with the towing!

The high altitudes are sharp, but I personally wouldn’t pay the extra for painted bumpers and mirrors if I were planning to replace bumpers. At that point, an overland is pretty close to the same at a lower price point.

 

[ckoyola]

Keep in mind Tow package and Max Tow package are two different things. I have a new to me 2021 Overland ($40K before tax with 15.9K miles purchased last month) with the tow package and can only tow 4000-4500lbs. There is a link somewhere on this forum where you can enter in your VIN and get the exact build sheet for your Gladiator to confirm as to if you have Tow or Max Tow. I thought Max tow was only on Sport/Sport S but not 100% sure--I am not on expert on here but there are others on here that are so that's why I am on here (to learn from them)!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Keep in mind Tow package and Max Tow package are two different things. I have a new to me 2021 Overland ($40K before tax with 15.9K miles purchased last month) with the tow package and can only tow 4000-4500lbs.

Sorry, that's wrong.
If you have an overland with the tow package, you can tow 6,000 pounds of trailer.
Max tow is Sport level only and gets over 7500 but other tow packages settle at at least 6,000
Not sure where you get the 4,000-4,500 part. That sounds like a manual transmission limit.
Any JT with a tow package and automatic can tow at least 6,000 pounds.

The HT he's looking at with automatic and tow package will have a tow rating of 6,000 pounds.

but I personally wouldn’t pay the extra for painted bumpers and mirrors if I were planning to replace bumpers. At that point, an overland is pretty close to the same at a lower price point.

There's actually more to it, and for the small price difference when I was looking, that almost swayed me because of the wider axles under the HA.

It would actually tow better than my Overland even though the pound tow rating is 6K for both. The width would matter.

We've found out by owners here and just sitting in JTs that the seats can feel very different between the levels, too.
One thing that was a negative for me with the HA was the wheels. But again, the wider axles almost swayed me due to towing.

 

[ckoyola]

Sorry, that's wrong.
If you have an overland with the tow package, you can tow 6,000 pounds of trailer.
Max tow is Sport level only and gets over 7500 but other tow packages settle at at least 6,000
Not sure where you get the 4,000-4,500 part. That sounds like a manual transmission limit.
Any JT with a tow package and automatic can tow at least 6,000 pounds.

The HT he's looking at with automatic and tow package will have a tow rating of 6,000 pounds.



There's actually more to it, and for the small price difference when I was looking, that almost swayed me because of the wider axles under the HA.

It would actually tow better than my Overland even though the pound tow rating is 6K for both. The width would matter.

We've found out by owners here and just sitting in JTs that the seats can feel very different between the levels, too.
One thing that was a negative for me with the HA was the wheels. But again, the wider axles almost swayed me due to towing.

No need to apologize--That's great news for me/never been so happy to be wrong! Not sure if I will ever tow 6K, but glad to know I can. I've seen you reply to many threads on here and you are one of the experts I was referring to that would clarify. Thanks for the clarification/really appreciate your prompt reply.

 

[916WI]

I'm personally finding my trailering options to be limited with my 21 JTRD. Perhaps you'll be better off with the Pentastar. If I were in your shoes, I'd keep the Titan. My wife and I love the Jeep, but often find ourselves wanting for a bit more interior space. The V8 and full size truck is a little extra insurance when towing. The heart wants what it wants, but you'll be going from more than capable to just capable. It's a downgrade in my opinion.

Believe me, I've put some thought in it. I probably will end up using the trailer 5 or 6 times a year. The Nissan would definitely pull the trailer without issue--the rest of the time it is a little overkill for what I use it for. I miss my wrangler, so the ability to take off the top/doors the rest of the time is a huge plus. I rearranged things and made plans to see how well the Gladiator pulls the trailer during the 24hr test drive. I'll get it on the interstate and some back roads with the water tank full and truck bed loaded with gear to see how well it works. I have a sway control bar and the brake control ready. If it's a struggle, I'll keep the Titan.

 

[916WI]

The high altitudes are sharp, but I personally wouldn’t pay the extra for painted bumpers and mirrors if I were planning to replace bumpers. At that point, an overland is pretty close to the same at a lower price point.

It's funny because Carmax had this one listed on their website as Overland and priced in line with their other Overlands. The High Altitudes they have listed as High Altitudes all have twice the miles and are $4000 more........

 

[High Alextude]

Sounds like a good deal. Gladiator trade values/resale are still pretty good as well.

Test drive it, bring it to a mechanic if you can and if everything feels right, go for it. I bet it would be much easier finding a Nissan truck than finding another Jeep on a lot with most or all of the specs you're looking for.

 

[Sandevino]

Whatever you decide to do, get the 100k warranty.

 

[Casique]

Make sure you drive it before you buy it. My HA has a light wandering steering that gets on my nerves, and I would not tow with. Also, tried to see if the HA you are looking at has a tow hitch, but could not see one. If it does not have a tow hitch, it does not have the tow package (unless it was removed, but doubtful). Good luck!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Make sure you drive it before you buy it. My HA has a light wandering steering that gets on my nerves, and I would not tow with. Also, tried to see if the HA you are looking at has a tow hitch, but could not see one. If it does not have a tow hitch, it does not have the tow package (unless it was removed, but doubtful). Good luck!

He doesn't need to question the tow package. That's already been covered by looking up the VIN
It has the tow package.
It's definitely a High Altitude Overland package with the wider axles as well.

https://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1C6HJTFG6NL114748

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My HA has a light wandering steering that gets on my nerves, and I would not tow with.

That can be fixed.

Sponsored