Anyone else find it strange

[Phishs]

That the 2024 Wrangler has been for sale for months and we can’t get any info from Jeep about the 2024 Gladiator? It just seems like a strange way to do this. I thought in the past most manufacturers models were announced / released around the same time. I wish they’d at least let us know what to expect and when the production will began. They can tell us and make us wait until the show to actually see it. I’ve seen where they’re waiting on the auto show next month but they didn’t do that with the Wrangler, seems like they’re just dragging their feet on the Gladiator. JMO

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[Sandevino]

Me thinks there will be a 5.7 Hemi option they’re wanting to unveil and capture the shock and awe crowd. There was a mistake (air quotes) a few weeks back on the e-shop site which got some marketing intern fired.

FCA is also trying to build up the pomp and circumstance around the diesel far out / way out last hurrah model run.

 

[Renegade]

I would speculate that they may have excessive inventory they are trying to move before announcing the upcoming changes to the 2024 model. If the changes are significant, people might hold out for them. Just a thought though. The November 2024 production date is a bit later than usual.

 

[Shift Happens]

I would speculate that they may have excessive inventory they are trying to move before announcing the upcoming changes to the 2024 model. If the changes are significant, people might hold out for them. Just a thought though. The November 2024 production date is a bit later than usual.

With the aggressiveness of deals they're offering; I would tend to agree.

 

[Rahkmalla]

Me thinks there will be a 5.7 Hemi option they’re wanting to unveil and capture the shock and awe crowd.

I really think you're wrong... but i hope you're right.

 

[TheTrailGeek]

I would speculate that they may have excessive inventory they are trying to move before announcing the upcoming changes to the 2024 model. If the changes are significant, people might hold out for them. Just a thought though. The November 2024 production date is a bit later than usual.

This makes sense. Seeing a lot of people / dealers having to drop their 392 prices down because the 2024s are out and they were hanging onto them trying to get 100k for them when the new model hit.

 

[Rahkmalla]

I'd worked in car dealerships for years. Mnfrs do whatever they want based on what they want to do, consistency be damned. New models come out whenever it's convenient for them. Carryovers typically come in August, but refreshes and generation updates can be whenever.

Perfet examples from Nissan:

1. Go find a 2008 Nissan Murano. You can't! Why? Nissan changed the body style and wanted to call the new body style a 2009. Except they released it in January 2008. So instead of having the new model release in Jan 2008 as a 2008, they just skipped the entire 2008 year and we had 2009s on the lot WHILE THEY WERE STILL SHIPPING US OUR LAST FEW 2007s! Customers love leftovers for the savings, but they HATE 2 year leftovers. Doens't matter if you show them the 2007 on your lot next to the 2009 both just came off the same truck 3 days ago.

2. The original Nissan Rogue sold horribly. Not the customer's fault, it was garbage (sorry to anyone who owned one). At a time when new cars were being built with nav (even low cost ones if you spent enough money) Nissan's fully loaded Rogue came with a fucking garmin. Didn't even have a built in place to attach it, it just came with a regular old window suction holder. That was the least of it's problems. Now, Nissan writes contracts to their suppliers for large batches of parts to build vehicles. If they can't use out their entire contract they just do stupid shit. So what was Nissan's answer to over-contracting parts for their poor-selling Rogue? They made a NEW rogue and kept on building the old Rogue. For MY 2013 and 2014 you could buy an old rogue or a new rogue. The new rogue was decent, but the old one was trash, but they had contracts to satisfy.



How this relates to JLs/JTs: They contracted a certain number of parts. Maybe the answer is headunits. If all their other suppliers shorted them, but their head unit supplier didn't, they could either attempt to renegotiate their contract with the headunit supplier, or just take them all and use the leftovers on the gladiator. This could also be related to the new grille, and the reason why the lower trim Wranglers don't get the new grille. They have parts they need to clear out, and with JLU sales vastly exceeding the JT sales, it made more sense to use the JT as a clearing house for contracted parts.

 

[Phishs]

I'd worked in car dealerships for years. Mnfrs do whatever they want based on what they want to do, consistency be damned. New models come out whenever it's convenient for them. Carryovers typically come in August, but refreshes and generation updates can be whenever.

Perfet examples from Nissan:

1. Go find a 2008 Nissan Murano. You can't! Why? Nissan changed the body style and wanted to call the new body style a 2009. Except they released it in January 2008. So instead of having the new model release in Jan 2008 as a 2008, they just skipped the entire 2008 year and we had 2009s on the lot WHILE THEY WERE STILL SHIPPING US OUR LAST FEW 2007s! Customers love leftovers for the savings, but they HATE 2 year leftovers. Doens't matter if you show them the 2007 on your lot next to the 2009 both just came off the same truck 3 days ago.

2. The original Nissan Rogue sold horribly. Not the customer's fault, it was garbage (sorry to anyone who owned one). At a time when new cars were being built with nav, even low cost ones if you spent enough money, Nissan's fully loaded Rogue came with a fucking garmin. Didn't even have a built in place to attach it, it just came with a regular old window suction holder. That was the least of it's problems. Now, Nissan writes contracts to their suppliers for large batches of parts to build vehicles. If they can't use out their entire contract they just do stupid shit. So what was Nissan's answer to over-contracting parts for their poor-selling Rogue? They made a NEW rogue and kept on building the old Rogue. For MY 2013 and 2014 you could buy an old rogue or a new rogue. The new rogue was decent, but the old one was trash, but they had contracts to satisfy.



How this relates to JLs/JTs: They contracted a certain number of parts. Maybe the answer is headunits. If all their other suppliers shorted them, but their head unit supplier didn't, they could either attempt to renegotiate their contract with the headunit supplier, or just take them all and use the leftovers on the gladiator. This could also be related to the new grille, and the reason why the lower trim Wranglers don't get the new grille. They have parts they need to clear out, and with JLU sales vastly exceeding the JT sales, it made more sense to use the JT as a clearing house for contracted parts.

This makes sense, I just wish they’d at least announce what’s coming. I’m tired of waiting. lol

 

[Rusty PW]

This makes sense. Seeing a lot of people / dealers having to drop their 392 prices down because the 2024s are out and they were hanging onto them trying to get 100k for them when the new model hit.

Friend of mine just got a 392 Wrangler. Said he got a killer deal on it. Otherwise he would never have gotten it.

 

[TheTrailGeek]

Friend of mine just got a 392 Wrangler. Said he got a killer deal on it. Otherwise he would never have gotten it.

That's where I'm at. I'd never have considered one 2 months ago. Seeing them high 60's - mid 70's for some of them. Definitely getting more tempting, but I just LOVE my Gladiator so not sure I could ever scratch that itch.

 

[Mojave Nunzio]

I would speculate that they may have excessive inventory they are trying to move before announcing the upcoming changes to the 2024 model. If the changes are significant, people might hold out for them. Just a thought though. The November 2024 production date is a bit later than usual.

I second that.

 

[Sandevino]

I really think you're wrong... but i hope you're right.

They’ve got a glut of 5.7’s without the eTorque crap on it to move so it just makes sense. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but if I’m right, shut up and take my money.

 

[bleda2002]

Rumor is the Detroit Auto Show next month. Should only be about 2.5 week wait at this point. I'm assuming they want to announce it separately A) to not steal the wrangler refresh buzz which happens so rarely it deserves attention and B) to make sure that 2024 wranglers werent parts constrained for the new items.

 

[Phishs]

We shall see how the upcoming strike will effect all of it as well...

 

[Minty JL]

I concur that there is something brewing.

The order bank for the 23MY opened in early August last year; I ordered mine 18 AUG a few days after they dropped HVY color option.

If they drop a Bikini 392 or 4Xe option I might have to have a serious talk with myself LOL

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