Anyone else find it strange

[Rahkmalla]

If they drop a Bikini 392 or 4Xe option I might have to have a serious talk with myself LOL

I don't have to worry because they'll never drop a manual v8, so my wallet is in the clear

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[Sandevino]

I don't have to worry because they'll never drop a manual v8, so my wallet is in the clear

But wouldn’t it be amazing…

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That the 2024 Wrangler has been for sale for months and we can’t get any info from Jeep about the 2024 Gladiator? It just seems like a strange way to do this. I thought in the past most manufacturers models were announced / released around the same time. I wish they’d at least let us know what to expect and when the production will began. They can tell us and make us wait until the show to actually see it. I’ve seen where they’re waiting on the auto show next month but they didn’t do that with the Wrangler, seems like they’re just dragging their feet on the Gladiator. JMO

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Anyone else find it strange
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No. It's not that uncommon over the years for one model to come out and then another at another time. They are different vehicles in many ways - the Gladiator must be taken care of like a truck while the Wrangler is aimed at a different market.

I don't expect any big changes for the Gladiator yet - it's a bit more complex due to towing and payload demands, cooling and so on.
The Wrangler already has the hemi and 4xe options while if such a thing comes out in the JT it will take more time.

Any answer you get will be pure speculation and opinion. Don't expect a clear answer. IF you get 30 responses, they'll all be different - and likely none will be the final reality.

 

[Uparms]

Me thinks there will be a 5.7 Hemi option they’re wanting to unveil and capture the shock and awe crowd. There was a mistake (air quotes) a few weeks back on the e-shop site which got some marketing intern fired.

FCA is also trying to build up the pomp and circumstance around the diesel far out / way out last hurrah model run.

I picked up on and posted that "intern error". Tell you what, the cash I saved on my 23 JT arriving next week would get turned over real fast if the 5.7 happens. It won't.

The JL hybrid will replace the oil burner. Comment above is probably most accurate, empty out the 23s before releasing 24 data. Again, November is late.

 

[Phishs]

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Anyone else find it strange
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No. It's not that uncommon over the years for one model to come out and then another at another time. They are different vehicles in many ways - the Gladiator must be taken care of like a truck while the Wrangler is aimed at a different market.

I don't expect any big changes for the Gladiator yet - it's a bit more complex due to towing and payload demands, cooling and so on.
The Wrangler already has the hemi and 4xe options while if such a thing comes out in the JT it will take more time.

Any answer you get will be pure speculation and opinion. Don't expect a clear answer. IF you get 30 responses, they'll all be different - and likely none will be the final reality.

Do you think they’ll do the interior changes same as the wrangler? I’m hoping for that bigger screen.

 

[Mr._Bill]

Do you think they’ll do the interior changes same as the wrangler? I’m hoping for that bigger screen.

I don't think there will be ANY changes for the Gladiator, besides the grille, until the 2025 MY.

 

[Phishs]

I don't think there will be ANY changes for the Gladiator, besides the grille, until the 2025 MY.

What makes you think that?

 

[Jaybre007]

I'd worked in car dealerships for years. Mnfrs do whatever they want based on what they want to do, consistency be damned. New models come out whenever it's convenient for them. Carryovers typically come in August, but refreshes and generation updates can be whenever.

Perfet examples from Nissan:

1. Go find a 2008 Nissan Murano. You can't! Why? Nissan changed the body style and wanted to call the new body style a 2009. Except they released it in January 2008. So instead of having the new model release in Jan 2008 as a 2008, they just skipped the entire 2008 year and we had 2009s on the lot WHILE THEY WERE STILL SHIPPING US OUR LAST FEW 2007s! Customers love leftovers for the savings, but they HATE 2 year leftovers. Doens't matter if you show them the 2007 on your lot next to the 2009 both just came off the same truck 3 days ago.

2. The original Nissan Rogue sold horribly. Not the customer's fault, it was garbage (sorry to anyone who owned one). At a time when new cars were being built with nav, even low cost ones if you spent enough money, Nissan's fully loaded Rogue came with a fucking garmin. Didn't even have a built in place to attach it, it just came with a regular old window suction holder. That was the least of it's problems. Now, Nissan writes contracts to their suppliers for large batches of parts to build vehicles. If they can't use out their entire contract they just do stupid shit. So what was Nissan's answer to over-contracting parts for their poor-selling Rogue? They made a NEW rogue and kept on building the old Rogue. For MY 2013 and 2014 you could buy an old rogue or a new rogue. The new rogue was decent, but the old one was trash, but they had contracts to satisfy.



How this relates to JLs/JTs: They contracted a certain number of parts. Maybe the answer is headunits. If all their other suppliers shorted them, but their head unit supplier didn't, they could either attempt to renegotiate their contract with the headunit supplier, or just take them all and use the leftovers on the gladiator. This could also be related to the new grille, and the reason why the lower trim Wranglers don't get the new grille. They have parts they need to clear out, and with JLU sales vastly exceeding the JT sales, it made more sense to use the JT as a clearing house for contracted parts.

I concur that there is something brewing.

The order bank for the 23MY opened in early August last year; I ordered mine 18 AUG a few days after they dropped HVY color option.

If they drop a Bikini 392 or 4Xe option I might have to have a serious talk with myself LOL

In not so many words...DITTO

 

[Phishs]

I’m ok if they never come out with a 392 option. I can’t afford a $80,000 truck. lol

 

[Mr._Bill]

What makes you think that?

The talk here is all wants and wishful thinking. The Gladiator is a niche-market, mid-size, pickup. It fills a specific market demand, and is not meant to compete with anything else out there. FCA knew that when they started production. If most of the manufacturing was not based on the Wrangler, it would not exist. It seems to follow the Wrangler changes with a one or two year delay. The sales are probably following expectations, or production would likely end. The V-6 is an adequate power-plant, and they don't appear interested in paying for crash tests and other costs necessary to install anything else. Some form of EV is necessary to satisfy government requirements, and will probably show up with the Wrangler changes for the 2025 model year. The eco-diesel was a nice option, but is going to cost them money due to the fuel pump issues, so it is being dropped. There's a lot of whining here about lack of power and options, but Jeeps have always been that way and have always sold. They might surprise us with something for 2024 later in the year, but I don't expect anything major to show up.

 

[Phishs]

The talk here is all wants and wishful thinking. The Gladiator is a niche-market, mid-size, pickup. It fills a specific market demand, and is not meant to compete with anything else out there. FCA knew that when they started production. If most of the manufacturing was not based on the Wrangler, it would not exist. It seems to follow the Wrangler changes with a one or two year delay. The sales are probably following expectations, or production would likely end. The V-6 is an adequate power-plant, and they don't appear interested in paying for crash tests and other costs necessary to install anything else. Some form of EV is necessary to satisfy government requirements, and will probably show up with the Wrangler changes for the 2025 model year. The eco-diesel was a nice option, but is going to cost them money due to the fuel pump issues, so it is being dropped. There's a lot of whining here about lack of power and options, but Jeeps have always been that way and have always sold. They might surprise us with something for 2024 later in the year, but I don't expect anything major to show up.

I am just hoping for that 12.3" screen and power seats. We shall see what they end up doing.

 

[Minty JL]

I’m ok if they never come out with a 392 option. I can’t afford a $80,000 truck. lol

I would only be able to do it based on the fact I have so much equity in my '23

 

[Deleted member 57233]

I am just hoping for that 12.3" screen and power seats. We shall see what they end up doing.

What's the fascination with power seats? I set my driver seat when I bought the car 5 years ago and haven't moved it. And they are slooooow compared to a lever if you need to lay the seat all the way back or forward.

 

[Phishs]

What's the fascination with power seats? I set my driver seat when I bought the car 5 years ago and haven't moved it. And they are slooooow compared to a lever if you need to lay the seat all the way back or forward.

I normally dont want or need power seats but the way these are designed, when I get out of the truck it always pushs the height adjuster down. If you never mess with the height, than it wont be a big deal.

 

[Warevelle]

I would speculate that they may have excessive inventory they are trying to move before announcing the upcoming changes to the 2024 model. If the changes are significant, people might hold out for them. Just a thought though. The November 2024 production date is a bit later than usual.

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I agree with this. I bought my 23 Gladiator Rubicon a month and a half ago in the Denver area. They had 141 in the dealer network inventory (Autonation). They gave me almost 12K off sticker. Only had a handful of Wranglers and very little dealing going on with them.

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