Clayton 1.5 inch Right Ride or Overland? Is it essential to opt for the Overland package, including the 8 control arms?

[Elgin]

I'm strongly considering the Right Ride 1.5-inch lift kit for my JTR. While I'll primarily be driving on the road. As I contemplate this upgrade, I'm uncertain whether opting for the Overland package, including the 8 control arms is essential. Do you believe that, for someone like me, the Right Ride kit alone would suffice since it's only 1.5 inch height increased?

Additionally, is it OK if I use stock shocks to pair with the 1.5 inch lift kit? Or do I have to go with new shocks? I'm interested in pairing it with the Fox 2.0 shock.

Could you guys offer me some advice? I appreciate it.

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[Elgin]

Please help

 

[Idlethunder]

I'm strongly considering the Right Ride 1.5-inch lift kit for my JTR. While I'll primarily be driving on the road. As I contemplate this upgrade, I'm uncertain whether opting for the Overland package, including the 8 control arms is essential. Do you believe that, for someone like me, the Right Ride kit alone would suffice since it's only 1.5 inch height increased?

Additionally, is it OK if I use stock shocks to pair with the 1.5 inch lift kit? Or do I have to go with new shocks? I'm interested in pairing it with the Fox 2.0 shock.

Could you guys offer me some advice? I appreciate it.

I seriously considered the 2.5” Ride Right lift a few weeks ago but ultimately went with the 2.5 Overland Plus. Mine has been on for a little over 2 weeks now and is sitting right at 3 1/4” taller than stock but I’m still running the plastic front bumper and no winch. The reason I went with the Overland Plus is because I didn’t want to be adding parts every few months. My JT is my daily driver and I tow with it. I am seriously impressed with the way this thing drives and rides now. Whichever way you go, you won’t be disappointed.

 

[upnover]

Why do you need all eight arms?

it’s only 1.5” you really don’t need them.
Why only 1.5”, what size tires you plan to run?

 

[Elgin]

Why do you need all eight arms?

it’s only 1.5” you really don’t need them.
Why only 1.5”, what size tires you plan to run?

Now I run 315. I don't really need 8 control arms, I just don't know how big is the difference. Is it worth it or is it necessary?

 

[Elgin]

I seriously considered the 2.5” Ride Right lift a few weeks ago but ultimately went with the 2.5 Overland Plus. Mine has been on for a little over 2 weeks now and is sitting right at 3 1/4” taller than stock but I’m still running the plastic front bumper and no winch. The reason I went with the Overland Plus is because I didn’t want to be adding parts every few months. My JT is my daily driver and I tow with it. I am seriously impressed with the way this thing drives and rides now. Whichever way you go, you won’t be disappointed.

Seems like people think that since I will only go with 1.5 inch lift, there is not necessary going with overland package. What do you think? What kind of shocks did you go with?

 

[Idlethunder]

Seems like people think that since I will only go with 1.5 inch lift, there is not necessary going with overland package. What do you think? What kind of shocks did you go with?

I went with Falcon 3.1 Piggyback Shocks. Clayton gave me a great deal on them and they are upgradable to the 3.3 fast adjust if I need to later. The Falcons are a big improvement over the Eibach pro truck series shocks I had been using and the Eibachs were a good improvement over the stock Fox shocks that mine came with. I have the Falcons set on soft and they ride great on both the highway and the badly wash boarded dirt roads we have here. When I first installed them, I had them set to performance and they were stiffer than I liked. I am not a hard core off roader. Most of my four wheel drive needs are either here on my property or when hunting. After talking with both Teraflex and Clayton, the 3.1s seemed like the best fit for me and I’m very happy with them.

If I had gone with a 1.5” lift, it would have been very tempting to choose the Ride Right over the Overland. If I remember correctly, the only difference with the Ride Right is that you only get one set of front adjustable control arms rather than all 8 that come with the Overland. You should not need as much geometry correction with the lower lift and without driving with both lifts installed, I don’t know if a person could tell the difference. I set all my control arms to the Clayton recommended starting points and only had to move them a turn or two to get them dialed in.

From my experience talking to and buying from Clayton, I don’t think you will be disappointed with either kit. It all comes down to which one you want. If you don’t mind spending more up front so you never have to wonder if it could be better, go Overland. If you want to save a little and see how you like it, get the Ride Right. Personally, if I was going with the 1.5” lift, I probably would start with the Ride Right and built up from there if I felt it was lacking.

 

[Elgin]

I went with Falcon 3.1 Piggyback Shocks. Clayton gave me a great deal on them and they are upgradable to the 3.3 fast adjust if I need to later. The Falcons are a big improvement over the Eibach pro truck series shocks I had been using and the Eibachs were a good improvement over the stock Fox shocks that mine came with. I have the Falcons set on soft and they ride great on both the highway and the badly wash boarded dirt roads we have here. When I first installed them, I had them set to performance and they were stiffer than I liked. I am not a hard core off roader. Most of my four wheel drive needs are either here on my property or when hunting. After talking with both Teraflex and Clayton, the 3.1s seemed like the best fit for me and I’m very happy with them.

If I had gone with a 1.5” lift, it would have been very tempting to choose the Ride Right over the Overland. If I remember correctly, the only difference with the Ride Right is that you only get one set of front adjustable control arms rather than all 8 that come with the Overland. You should not need as much geometry correction with the lower lift and without driving with both lifts installed, I don’t know if a person could tell the difference. I set all my control arms to the Clayton recommended starting points and only had to move them a turn or two to get them dialed in.

From my experience talking to and buying from Clayton, I don’t think you will be disappointed with either kit. It all comes down to which one you want. If you don’t mind spending more up front so you never have to wonder if it could be better, go Overland. If you want to save a little and see how you like it, get the Ride Right. Personally, if I was going with the 1.5” lift, I probably would start with the Ride Right and built up from there if I felt it was lacking.

I totally agreed! This is so helpful! I would probably just go with Ride Right firs. Oh you have Falcon 3.1? I don’t see them listed anymore, is it discontinued? Before the lift, I will get new shocks first (0-1.5) since I will either lift my trunk 1.5 inch or no lift at all. Kinda thinking about Falcon 3.3. But not sure if is it an overkill for what I needed, also I could save a thousand. Deciding between Fox 2.0 and Falcon 2.1. Do you have any thoughts? Thank you again.

 

[upnover]

If you are only going 315s why not just get the TF spacer lift to save money and some new shocks. It just seems like a lot of money to not gain that much more.

 

[NewGladdyOWNR]

Whichever kit you get, use rubber undercoating on the control arms/track bars as the Clayton lifts RUST very badly if you live in a state that snows/uses salt on the roads. My whole set of control arms are rusty/bubbling after one full winter. Just an FYI.

 

[Idlethunder]

I totally agreed! This is so helpful! I would probably just go with Ride Right firs. Oh you have Falcon 3.1? I don’t see them listed anymore, is it discontinued? Before the lift, I will get new shocks first (0-1.5) since I will either lift my trunk 1.5 inch or no lift at all. Kinda thinking about Falcon 3.3. But not sure if is it an overkill for what I needed, also I could save a thousand. Deciding between Fox 2.0 and Falcon 2.1. Do you have any thoughts? Thank you again.

The Fox shocks I've used are the ones that came stock on my Rubicon. My understanding it that Fox did make them, they were built to the specs given to them. The ones on my JTR were, in my opinion, way too soft. The difference between them and the Eibach shocks I first upgraded too were obvious. By that I mean I could push the Fox shocks in by hand and they were slow to extend back out. The ride quality was much improved with the Eibachs. Moving up to the Falcon 3.1 was another huge improvement. After Clayton offered me a great deal on these, I emailed Falcon about them because they were no longer listed for the JT. They told me that they were being discontinued but only for the JT. They reason being that they were selling so many more of the 3.3s. They do make an upgrade kit, a little over $450, that adds the fast adjust knobs, that turns them into the 3.3s. I really debated going with the 3.3s but after talking to both Clayton and Falcon, I decided to try the 3.1s and upgrade later if needed. They have only been on my Jeep a couple of weeks now. I have not been far enough offroad to disconnect the sway bars but the ride on pavement and rough dirt roads is great. At some point I may upgrade these to 3.3s but right now I have not seen the need to. Falcon told me that the people who will see the biggest difference with the 3.3s are the serious off roaders. The 3.1s are adjustable to either soft/cold or performance mode by unbolting the bottom and turning the shaft. The 3.3s adjust the same way but they also have the fast adjust knobs that gives you mode specific adjustability. If you are set to soft, you can move up or down the firmness settings using the dials. You will not be able to change from soft to performance but you do have a lot more control of mode you are in. My feeling was that the shocks would end up like my adjustable steering stabilizer. Once I got that set to my liking, I have not changed it. If you are interested in the Falcon 3.1 shocks, my suggestion would be to ask Clayton about them when you buy your lift. If they still have any for your height, they should give you a better than listed price.

 

[Elgin]

The Fox shocks I've used are the ones that came stock on my Rubicon. My understanding it that Fox did make them, they were built to the specs given to them. The ones on my JTR were, in my opinion, way too soft. The difference between them and the Eibach shocks I first upgraded too were obvious. By that I mean I could push the Fox shocks in by hand and they were slow to extend back out. The ride quality was much improved with the Eibachs. Moving up to the Falcon 3.1 was another huge improvement. After Clayton offered me a great deal on these, I emailed Falcon about them because they were no longer listed for the JT. They told me that they were being discontinued but only for the JT. They reason being that they were selling so many more of the 3.3s. They do make an upgrade kit, a little over $450, that adds the fast adjust knobs, that turns them into the 3.3s. I really debated going with the 3.3s but after talking to both Clayton and Falcon, I decided to try the 3.1s and upgrade later if needed. They have only been on my Jeep a couple of weeks now. I have not been far enough offroad to disconnect the sway bars but the ride on pavement and rough dirt roads is great. At some point I may upgrade these to 3.3s but right now I have not seen the need to. Falcon told me that the people who will see the biggest difference with the 3.3s are the serious off roaders. The 3.1s are adjustable to either soft/cold or performance mode by unbolting the bottom and turning the shaft. The 3.3s adjust the same way but they also have the fast adjust knobs that gives you mode specific adjustability. If you are set to soft, you can move up or down the firmness settings using the dials. You will not be able to change from soft to performance but you do have a lot more control of mode you are in. My feeling was that the shocks would end up like my adjustable steering stabilizer. Once I got that set to my liking, I have not changed it. If you are interested in the Falcon 3.1 shocks, my suggestion would be to ask Clayton about them when you buy your lift. If they still have any for your height, they should give you a better than listed price.

Thank you! I think we are the same type of people. I don't like to adjust things around. Wow, If I ask them, they might give me a better deal? Lol, that's cool! I would prefer reservoir shocks.

 

[Elgin]

Whichever kit you get, use rubber undercoating on the control arms/track bars as the Clayton lifts RUST very badly if you live in a state that snows/uses salt on the roads. My whole set of control arms are rusty/bubbling after one full winter. Just an FYI.

Damn. Good to know. Thank you. I live in Boston area and I am planning to do that. I wonder If I park my trunk indoor most of time, of course I will still be driving on road. Do you think I still need a undercoating? The reason why I am asking is becasue I will move to California next year, this is going to be my last winter here in MA.

 

[Idlethunder]

Thank you! I think we are the same type of people. I don't like to adjust things around. Wow, If I ask them, they might give me a better deal? Lol, that's cool! I would prefer reservoir shocks.

Just keep in mind that I bought mine a few weeks ago and they still had a few Falcon 3.1s in stock for my lift height. I really can’t see you being disappointed with them and the ride right 1.5”.

 

[Elgin]

Just keep in mind that I bought mine a few weeks ago and they still had a few Falcon 3.1s in stock for my lift height. I really can’t see you being disappointed with them and the ride right 1.5”.

I will ask them. All of a sudden, it got me thinking should I go with 2.5 inch or 1.5? (Since they are the same price) Lol. I have 315 tires now. Would it look too small with 2.5 inch lift?

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