Poor Sales Translates to job cuts

[Teqsand]

That is almost a political question as peoples answers to it will fall where their political beliefs lay and probably be a sliding scale between the two.

Pure Capitalist will say profit and employees are just a manage expense no different that the light bill, taxes and insurance.

Pure Communist will say it provides jobs as managed by the needs as determined by the state.

That is not to say companies can be well run where profits are made and long term employment to be had. Just there is an inclination of both sides to overt the other to maximize their sides self interest.

Nothing political about it unless one chooses to make it political, we are "currently" not under a communist system in the US, so your point is moot....

Stellantis is a business, not a job corp.... it's amazing who tilted some folks will accept the scale being.....

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[DarthAWM]

Just out of curiosity, does business exist to make profit or to provide jobs?

Neither, they exist to provide a service or make a product. Its very difficult to make profit or provide jobs without doing so

 

[Hootbro]

Nothing political about it unless one chooses to make it political, we are "currently" not under a communist system in the US, so your point is moot....

Stellantis is a business, not a job corp.... it's amazing who tilted some folks will accept the scale being.....

Just about everything is political at some level in some form as politics is the power relationship between people and the activities we do to mange the distribution of resources.

The point I am making is that most people are on a sliding scale between the two points.

I agree with you that Stellantis or any business is not primarily a "Jobs Corp" but just about any business of large stature is going to employ somebody and that relationship is always going to be in a state of flux.

 

[Rocksalt]

That is almost a political question as peoples answers to it will fall where their political beliefs lay and probably be a sliding scale between the two.

Pure Capitalist will say profit and employees are just a manage expense no different that the light bill, taxes and insurance.

Pure Communist will say it provides jobs as managed by the needs as determined by the state.

That is not to say companies can be well run where profits are made and long term employment to be had. Just there is an inclination of both sides to overt the other to maximize their sides self interest.

pro union ( able to bargain for livable wages) is not communist. Pure profit over workers is pure fascist... look up your ideologies before spreading inaccurate info ... if that matters to you

 

[Throwback]

The people who should be fired are collecting fat bonuses.

 

[Rocksalt]

not the workers... the fat corporate ceos cfos ...abd fat stockholders

 

[GeneralMaximus]

Just out of curiosity, does business exist to make profit or to provide jobs?

Why not both? I dont think many private businesses would stay open if they did not make a profit(in the present or long term) Nor would they be in business without any employees to run it.

 

[chesafreak]

ahh the ol capitalism vs marxism debate has begun. Any of yall actually believe you would have a Gladiator or the phone you're thumbing away on if it wasn't for straight capitalism?

 

[Rocksalt]

ahh the ol capitalism vs marxism debate has begun. Any of yall actually believe you would have a Gladiator or the phone you're thumbing away on if it wasn't for straight capitalism?

so you dont give a shit about workers who make your products actually having a living wage??? how pathetic

 

[Teqsand]

Why not both? I dont think many private businesses would stay open if they did not make a profit(in the present or long term) Nor would they be in business without any employees to run it.

Because jobs are a byproduct of the initial motivation......

 

[Throwback]

'tis the season for false binaries

 

[AmosMoses]

pro union ( able to bargain for livable wages) is not communist. Pure profit over workers is pure fascist... look up your ideologies before spreading inaccurate info ... if that matters to you

Fascism is just nationalistic communism basically. It's still collectivism over individualism.

 

[Hootbro]

pro union ( able to bargain for livable wages) is not communist. Pure profit over workers is pure fascist... look up your ideologies before spreading inaccurate info ... if that matters to you

You missed it but that is ok.

 

[ScottBeach]

If you ever had to look someone in the face and tell them their job is gone knows its the worst thing in the world to have to do. I think the fear is those that can look someone in the face and not care. The assumption often is that it is the careless people leading large companies I don't know that is true universally but it does happen often enough for the assumption to hold

 

[GeneralMaximus]

Because jobs are a byproduct of the initial motivation......

This is starting to sound like the whole chicken/egg debacle. Which came first, the job or the employees?

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