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I thought it would be helpful to start a discussion about theft prevention. This has been brought up in other threads before, but I thought having one place to collect all the information would be helpful. I plan to continually update this first post with new information, ideas, and products as new things get posted. Threads tend to go nuts and the signal to noise ratio gets so bad a new reader can't find what they need.

For those who don't know, proximity key fobs found on most newer vehicles are vulnerable to a low-skill theft technique. For about $20 someone can buy a signal relay/booster that can read the signal from your key inside your house and retransmit it to your vehicle, making it think the key is present and allowing the doors to be unlocked and the ignition started.


If a thief wants your truck bad enough, they will take it. Nothing will prevent them from showing up with a tow truck and driving off with it; the goal is to make is more difficult than it's worth and hope they move on to easier targets.

Tazer Mini - PIN Lock:
The Tazer Mini has the ability to require a PIN to be entered for the vehicle to start. The down side is this is a well known feature and a thief targeting Jeeps may be aware of it and how the Tazer is installed. Depending on how you installed your Tazer, it may be easily removed, defeating the PIN protection.
  • Pro: Many of us already own a Tazer Mini for it's other features, making this a cheap layer of protection. Reversible installation.
  • Con: Easily defeated by a knowledgeable thief, expensive if this is your only use for the Tazer.

Tazer Mini - Vehicle Setting: Disable proximity key function:
The Tazer Mini has the ability to disable your proximity locks entirely, negating the signal boosting attack on the doors.
  • Pro: If you already have a Tazer, it's a cheap layer of protection and highly effective at keeping the doors locked. They can boost the signal all day and the truck just won't care. Reversible installation.
  • Con: Doesn't work on the ignition, if you park with the doors or top off a thief can still enter the vehicle and start the ignition with a signal booster. You lose the convenience of proximity entry, you have to press the remote button each time you want to lock or unlock. The vehicle is still vulnerable to a forced entry followed by a signal boost attack to start the ignition. Easily defeated by a knowledgeable thief.

Faraday bag or box for key storage:
Faraday bags or boxes are lined with signal blocking material that keeps your key's radio signal from being picked up by outside receivers. Really any metal box should be able to do this pretty well, but for best results, any gaps in the storage box should be less than 1/10th the wavelength of the signal (typically 315 MHz or 433 MHz)
  • Pro: Cheap, keeps full functionality of the proximity lock/unlock
  • Con: You have to remember to put all your keys in the pouch or box every time you come home. Flexible pouches can wear over time and there's no visual indication that it's leaking signal. Lack of objective testing at the time of posting for which specific products are effective and perform as advertised.
Recommendations: This one was tested by @Rusty PW and was shown to be effective.
This one was tested by @j.o.y.ride and found to be effective if closed and latched.

Wrap Key in Aluminum Foil:
As proposed by @Dryfly24 here - this is a home made variation of the Faraday pouch (also useful if your fob is a conspiracy theorist)
  • Pro: Cheap.
  • Con: Potentially kills the fob battery, really only useful for storing a fob that's not being used.

Sniper Overwatch:
Exactly what it sounds like
  • Pro: Consequences of attempted theft preclude the possibility of a second attempt. Incredibly satisfying.
  • Con: You have to sleep some time. Possibility of serious legal consequences (varies by state). Not ideal in bad weather unless you like trench foot.

Steering Wheel Lock:
Adding a "club" or similar steering wheel locking device.
  • Pro: Visible deterrent can make a thief move on to easier prey.
  • Con: Pain in the ass to use, clucky, largely ineffective since thieves learned to sawing through the steering wheel to remove the club can take less than 90 seconds.
Air Tag:
Using an Apple Air Tag hidden in the vehicle
  • Pro: Inexpensive if you use Apple products. Can help recover a stolen vehicle.
  • Con: Doesn't deter theft. Notifies the thief of it's presence after enough time.
Remove Fob Battery:
Open it up, remove the CR2450 battery powering the signal.
How the fob works is explained here.
  • Pro: Cheap, easy, effective
  • Con: You must press the Start button with the fob.
Remove parts that are needed for the truck to run:
Such as this 40a fuse for the starter.
  • Pro: Effective for longer periods, such as long term parking or going on vacation.
  • Con: Not practical for daily theft deterrence.
Hidden Kill Switch:
Example of an installation is included in this post by @kb5zcr.
For added security, the kill switch could be hidden in the center console under a locked metal door.
  • Pro: Difficult to find due to non-uniform installations by DIYers, including the possibility of a physical barrier over the switch. Effectively negates signal boosting attacks.
  • Con: May be over the head of some DIYers. Difficulty in accessing the switch. May affect your warranty.
Purchased Anti-Theft Device/Immobilizer/Specialized kill switch:
Rahkmalla suggests the Ravelco. However, there are known flaws in this system that make it easy to bypass.
  • Pro: Not a "home brew" solution. No "master key" vulnerability
  • Con: Essentially it's a fancy kill switch. Expensive. May affect your warranty. Dubious efficacy.
CAN Bus Immobilizer:
There's a lot of information posted by @dayusmc in this thread.


(Change log: Added links to existing threads and posts as of 3/14/2024, added sections from "remove fob battery" to "purchased anti-theft device/immobilizer"
2/15/24: Added context and criticisms of Ravelco anti theft system)
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I thought it would be helpful to start a discussion about theft prevention. This has been brought up in other threads before, but I thought having one place to collect all the information would be helpful. I plan to continually update this first post with new information, ideas, and products as new things get posted. Threads tend to go nuts and the signal to noise ratio gets so bad a new reader can't find what they need.

For those who don't know, proximity key fobs found on most newer vehicles are vulnerable to a low-skill theft technique. For about $20 someone can buy a signal relay/booster that can read the signal from your key inside your house and retransmit it to your vehicle, making it think the key is present and allowing the doors to be unlocked and the ignition started.

Tazer Mini - PIN Lock:
The Tazer Mini has the ability to require a PIN to be entered for the vehicle to start. The down side is this is a well known feature and a thief targeting Jeeps may be aware of it and how the Tazer is installed. Depending on how you installed your Tazer, it may be easily removed, defeating the PIN protection.
  • Pro: Many of us already own a Tazer Mini for it's other features, making this a cheap layer of protection
  • Con: Easily defeated by a knowledgeable thief, expensive if this is your only use for the Tazer.

Tazer Mini - Vehicle Setting: Disable proximity key function:
The Tazer Mini has the ability to disable your proximity locks entirely, negating the signal boosting attack on the doors.
  • Pro: If you already have a Tazer, it's a cheap layer of protection and highly effective at keeping the doors locked. They can boost the signal all day and the truck just won't care.
  • Con: Doesn't work on the ignition, if you park with the doors or top off a thief can still enter the vehicle and start the ignition with a signal booster. You lose the convenience of proximity entry, you have to press the remote button each time you want to lock or unlock. The vehicle is still vulnerable to a forced entry followed by a signal boost attack to start the ignition.

Faraday bag or box for key storage:
Faraday bags or boxes are lined with signal blocking material that keeps your key's radio signal from being picked up by outside receivers. Really any metal box should be able to do this pretty well, but for best results, any gaps in the storage box should be less than 1/10th the wavelength of the signal (typically 315 MHz or 433 MHz)
  • Pro: Cheap, keeps full functionality of the proximity lock/unlock
  • Con: You have to remember to put all your keys in the pouch or box every time you come home. Flexible pouches can wear over time and there's no visual indication that it's leaking signal. Lack of objective testing at the time of posting for which specific products are effective and perform as advertised. \

Sniper Overwatch:
Exactly what it sounds like
  • Pro: Consequences of attempted theft preclude the possibility of a second attempt. Incredibly satisfying.
  • Con: You have to sleep some time. Possibility of serious legal consequences (varies by state). Not ideal in bad weather unless you like trench foot.

Steering Wheel Lock:
Adding a "club" or similar steering wheel locking device.
  • Pro: Visible deterrent can make a thief move on to easier prey.
  • Con: Pain in the ass to use, clucky, largely ineffective since thieves learned to sawing through the steering wheel to remove the club can take less than 90 seconds.
How about linking to all of the other "how to stop theft" or "my Jeep was stolen" threads?
I proposed a section to admin - but they ignored or didn't like it - a section on security and antitheft.
There's dozens of these threads and in a few months, another will be created like this........ so maybe a sticky with links to all of the other threads??
 

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Con: Easily defeated by a knowledgeable thief, expensive if this is your only use for the Tazer.
By simply removing the tazer - unless they have changed that for JEEP.
 

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I proposed a section to admin - but they ignored or didn't like it - a section on security and antitheft.
It really does seem like this warrants a section, and a sticky in said section with a compilation of common info would indeed be helpful.
 

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Not sure if I agree this should be it’s own section. I’m torn. As annoying as it is to see 7,342 threads, it does raise the awareness, and it’s a growing problem. But I do agree that there are multiple threads saying much of the same. Tough call.

One of these previous threads was mine. Had my truck stolen at the beginning of the year. Thankfully it was found, and after a TON of time between insurance and body shop I have it back.

I got a steering club. I know they can be defeated by cutting the wheel, but the visual deterrent doesn’t hurt.

I also mounted an AirTag underneath. I know a thief could be notified that an AirTag is present, but hoping mine is hidden well enough. It won’t deter, but could hopefully help to locate.

Found a device called CarLock to plug into OBD port. It sends a crazy alarm to my phone if the jeep starts, moves outside a certain radius, OR if the device is unplugged. Again, not fool proof, but could at least let me know if something is happening. $50 device and $10 subscription. Not great, but it’s something.

Overall, as @ShadowsPapa has mentioned in most of the other threads, if they want it bad enough they will take it. However, I’m hoping to build a multi-layer approach that gives me a better chance than I had before.
 
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How about linking to all of the other "how to stop theft" or "my Jeep was stolen" threads?
I proposed a section to admin - but they ignored or didn't like it - a section on security and antitheft.
There's dozens of these threads and in a few months, another will be created like this........ so maybe a sticky with links to all of the other threads??
Good idea, I will get going on collating all that.
 

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It’s like not being eaten by a bear, you don’t have to run faster than the bear, just faster than your neighbor. If your neighbor’s truck is easier to steal because it unlocked, no sort of extra security, parked on the street etc. the likelihood of getting jacked does increase.
 

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I have layered defenses
1. Tazer with hood horn and pin enabled
2. Relocate horns so the wires can not be cut
3. MOST IMPORTANT Ravelco Anti Theft Device
4. Drone Mobile x1max-lte with glass and motion alerts
They may still get it but not in 45 seconds
 

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I have layered defenses
1. Tazer with hood horn and pin enabled
2. Relocate horns so the wires can not be cut
3. MOST IMPORTANT Ravelco Anti Theft Device
4. Drone Mobile x1max-lte with glass and motion alerts
They may still get it but not in 45 seconds
Most importantly? It's ok, but I know people who have proven it can be defeated in minutes and at least one vehicle was reported as stolen with the Ravelco.
There are far better and cheaper ways than that thing.
Now that I understand how it works, I see it as no big deal. Will it "slow people down" - yes, but....... only for a few minutes.

Sure, it's a layer, but for all that it does, the cost is stupid, you can do far better (and doing the exact same thing) with other methods.
Give me a small drill and a VOM and I'll get in.

Plus, the owner is a real total jerk and you don't dare question his device!

Just saying - anyone like me can do the exact same thing a heck of a lot cheaper and make it even harder than that thing does - and - don't even think of relying on it as a major layer, just an "ok layer".
use a GOOD hood lock if you use it, and better yet, hide the dang thing as if I find it, it makes it a lot easier to defeat.
 

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Read a story today where Toronto police are advising homeowners to place their car keys close to the door to prevent violence when someone breaks into your house to get the keys to steal your car. Said home break-ins have increased 400% solely related to stealing cars.
 

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Read a story today where Toronto police are advising homeowners to place their car keys close to the door to prevent violence when someone breaks into your house to get the keys to steal your car. Said home break-ins have increased 400% solely related to stealing cars.
I mean if you wan to reduce violence you could leave the car unlocked and the keys in the seat
 

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Read a story today where Toronto police are advising homeowners to place their car keys close to the door to prevent violence when someone breaks into your house to get the keys to steal your car. Said home break-ins have increased 400% solely related to stealing cars.
Don't give them an excuse or reason for "contact" or interaction. Even after saying ok and handing over the money, keys and so on, as my son found out years ago, he was pistol whipped so bad he had to go to ER, then over to Iowa City where he lost his right eye and they had to work on his sinuses and eye socket reconstruction. That was after politely complying and make it easy.
He handed them everything without hesitation.

So either make it super easy, or make it so there's zero human interaction at all.
They are getting bolder and bolder...
 

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Most importantly? It's ok, but I know people who have proven it can be defeated in minutes and at least one vehicle was reported as stolen with the Ravelco.
There are far better and cheaper ways than that thing.
Now that I understand how it works, I see it as no big deal. Will it "slow people down" - yes, but....... only for a few minutes.

Sure, it's a layer, but for all that it does, the cost is stupid, you can do far better (and doing the exact same thing) with other methods.
Give me a small drill and a VOM and I'll get in.

Plus, the owner is a real total jerk and you don't dare question his device!

Just saying - anyone like me can do the exact same thing a heck of a lot cheaper and make it even harder than that thing does - and - don't even think of relying on it as a major layer, just an "ok layer".
use a GOOD hood lock if you use it, and better yet, hide the dang thing as if I find it, it makes it a lot easier to defeat.
Any thing can be defeated with enough time
You are welcome to come to my house and try to drive away my jeep
I will know the minute you enter my jeep and I will be ready
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