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Next year, I have plans to visit Portugal and would like to rent a Jeep Gladiator for the journey. There was an article discussing how the Jeep Gladiator is being discontinued in Europe https://www.motor1.com/news/685671/jeep-gladiator-dead-europe-farout-final-edition/. Any suggestions on similar vehicles to rent in Portugal? Excited to hear your recommendations and tips for an unforgettable trip!
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Heading there this year. Honestly I would love to drive myself around. But the public transportation system there is so good. It really makes it hard to justify. When we were in Italy a few years back. We ended getting 3 parking tickets by the time we got home even though we were very careful about where we parked. They can spot a tourist a mile away. Plus some of the car companies out a sticker on the gas door because black is diesel out there and green is gas. So as not to confuse tourists. It's a dead giveaway.
 

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I rented a car in Lisbon for a day. A gladiator would have been horrible on those small European streets, especially trying to park the beast. For driving outside the city and exploring the countryside, it should be fine. But for the city, just hop on one of those San Francisco trollies.
 

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If you aren’t off roading or carrying lots of gear, I would get something small for those tiny roads and tiny parking spaces. A decent hatch light be your best option. Gas is also very expensive in Europe.
 

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And be aware of all the speed cams. The highway out of Lisbon, I noticed that they sometimes label each lanes with different speed limits. example: 45km/h on the first lane, 55km/h on the middle lane and 60km/h on the fast lane.
 

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Will be difficult to rent something like a Gladiator in Portugal for a reasonable price.

Just take what you can get and enjoy the country.
 

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Can't help with cars, rentals, parking. But I do love Portugal - if the thread was just "recommendations and tips for an unforgettable trip!" it would be:

  • Port tasting in Vila Nova de Gaia (Porto). My favorites are the Portuguese brands (Ramos Pinto, Ferreira, Romariz, Pacheca, Dalva, too many to list). Some English brands (Grahams etc) can be great too, usually a little milder, less spicy, more pure. But avoid the mass-market Sandemans, Warre, Dow, etc.
  • There are port-tasting rooms in Lisbon and I think one in Porto by the national port institute, unmissable. If you have to miss Porto, that sucks but this is probably the next best thing.
  • See a fado performance in Alfama (Lisbon)
  • Make it out to Belem for the monastery tour, but especially the pasteis de natas at the attached bakery. There will be a line, do wait in line, it's worth it. You'll find versions of these everywhere but the ones at Belem really are something special and until you try it, you'll just be wondering for the rest of your life.
  • Do all the walking tours of the rococo palaces in Sintra. Fascinating. (and good bottle shops in the town nearby, I had a glass of 100 year old port there for basically nothing)
  • There are tons of ancient, walled, hilltop university towns. Coimba was my favorite (but there are many more I would have visited if I'd had a car)
  • if you're going to the Algarve, I found Faro the most charming and had wonderful beaches. Time of year matters though and it can be murder hot or super windy too.
  • speaking of Algarve make sure to find someone who can make an algarvinha cocktail - summery mix of almond Algarvinha de Rei, lemon, splash of soda.
  • Food... isn't Portugal's strongest suit generally. Hope you like cod, sausage, beans.
 
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Heading there this year. Honestly I would love to drive myself around. But the public transportation system there is so good. It really makes it hard to justify. When we were in Italy a few years back. We ended getting 3 parking tickets by the time we got home even though we were very careful about where we parked. They can spot a tourist a mile away. Plus some of the car companies out a sticker on the gas door because black is diesel out there and green is gas. So as not to confuse tourists. It's a dead giveaway.
Thank you for sharing your experience and insights on driving in Europe, @Free2roam! It's interesting to hear about the parking challenges and the unique color-coding for fuel types. The public transportation system's efficiency in Portugal certainly makes it a compelling option for getting around. I also confirmed this with this online resource https://gowithguide.com/blog/tourism-in-portugal-statistics-2023-the-ultimate-guide-5600 which listed Metro, buses, trains, taxis, and even highlighted some towns and cities best explored on foot. Your tips on navigating the nuances of driving in Europe are valuable for those planning a trip.
 

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i grew up in Europe. (perks of being an air force brat). For the most part of it, especially on the Atlantic coast side, Public transportation is fantastic. It's almost stupid to own a car there, depending on where you live. I have 12 siblings, and when my parents ordered a 15 passenger chevy 3500 van from back home to the netherlands where we lived. Let me just say that was a lot of vehicle for there. 6.0 liter V8 and a massive fuel tank. got like 10mpg. not cheap in the EU. but a tank lasted us 2 weeks. we could most anywhere in a few hours. 500 mile range is fantastic over there. but anyway, a glady is cool but i'd only get one over there if i wanted to wheel/explore a lot of spain since its empty for the most part but very pretty. Portugal, I'd just rent bicycles or mopeds as needed.
 
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I rented a car in Lisbon for a day. A gladiator would have been horrible on those small European streets, especially trying to park the beast. For driving outside the city and exploring the countryside, it should be fine. But for the city, just hop on one of those San Francisco trollies.
Your insight on the challenges of navigating small European streets with a Jeep Gladiator in cities like Lisbon is valuable. Opting for a more compact vehicle for urban areas can indeed make parking and maneuvering much easier. The suggestion to explore the city using public transportation adds a fun and practical touch to experiencing the urban landscape. Thank you for sharing these practical tips for a smoother and more enjoyable travel experience in Portugal, @GeneralMaximus!
 

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There is a lot to see and do in Lisbon. Food is good and cheap as well. I must’ve had a dozen egg tarts in the week I was there. Im sure you’ve got an itinerary but I can give you some recommendations if you are just starting to plan your trip.
 
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If you aren’t off roading or carrying lots of gear, I would get something small for those tiny roads and tiny parking spaces. A decent hatch light be your best option. Gas is also very expensive in Europe.
Opting for a smaller vehicle in Portugal to navigate the narrow roads and compact parking spaces is a practical suggestion, especially if I'm not planning on off-roading or carrying a lot of gear. A hatchback could indeed be a convenient choice for maneuvering through the charming but tight European streets, especially in Lisbon. Considering the cost of gas in Europe, a smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicle can also help you save on expenses during your travels. Thank you for the insightful advice on selecting a suitable vehicle for exploring Portugal, @MeiMei!
 
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And be aware of all the speed cams. The highway out of Lisbon, I noticed that they sometimes label each lanes with different speed limits. example: 45km/h on the first lane, 55km/h on the middle lane and 60km/h on the fast lane.
Thank you for highlighting the importance of being mindful of speed cameras and varying speed limits on different lanes, especially on the highways leading out of Lisbon. It's crucial to pay attention to these lane-specific speed restrictions to ensure a safe and smooth driving experience while exploring Portugal.
 
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Will be difficult to rent something like a Gladiator in Portugal for a reasonable price.

Just take what you can get and enjoy the country.
Thank you for the advice, @Stuntman Mike! Flexibility in vehicle choices can indeed lead to unexpected and enjoyable experiences while exploring Portugal. Embracing the available options and making the most of the journey will surely add a unique touch to the trip.
 
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Can't help with cars, rentals, parking. But I do love Portugal - if the thread was just "recommendations and tips for an unforgettable trip!" it would be:

  • Port tasting in Vila Nova de Gaia (Porto). My favorites are the Portuguese brands (Ramos Pinto, Ferreira, Romariz, Pacheca, Dalva, too many to list). Some English brands (Grahams etc) can be great too, usually a little milder, less spicy, more pure. But avoid the mass-market Sandemans, Warre, Dow, etc.
  • There are port-tasting rooms in Lisbon and I think one in Porto by the national port institute, unmissable. If you have to miss Porto, that sucks but this is probably the next best thing.
  • See a fado performance in Alfama (Lisbon)
  • Make it out to Belem for the monastery tour, but especially the pasteis de natas at the attached bakery. There will be a line, do wait in line, it's worth it. You'll find versions of these everywhere but the ones at Belem really are something special and until you try it, you'll just be wondering for the rest of your life.
  • Do all the walking tours of the rococo palaces in Sintra. Fascinating. (and good bottle shops in the town nearby, I had a glass of 100 year old port there for basically nothing)
  • There are tons of ancient, walled, hilltop university towns. Coimba was my favorite (but there are many more I would have visited if I'd had a car)
  • if you're going to the Algarve, I found Faro the most charming and had wonderful beaches. Time of year matters though and it can be murder hot or super windy too.
  • speaking of Algarve make sure to find someone who can make an algarvinha cocktail - summery mix of almond Algarvinha de Rei, lemon, splash of soda.
  • Food... isn't Portugal's strongest suit generally. Hope you like cod, sausage, beans.
Thank you for sharing such detailed and insightful recommendations for exploring Portugal, @fourfa! :) Your suggestions for experiencing port tasting in Vila Nova de Gaia, enjoying a fado performance in Alfama, indulging in pasteis de natas in Belem, and exploring the rococo palaces in Sintra offer a rich tapestry of cultural and culinary delights. Your tips on visiting ancient university towns like Coimbra and charming spots like Faro in the Algarve provide a well-rounded itinerary for anyone looking to immerse themselves in Portugal's beauty and history. Your insights on the Algarvinha cocktail and the local cuisine add a flavorful touch to the travel experience. Your passion for Portugal shines through in your recommendations, making it a truly unforgettable trip for any traveler.
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