Stellantis Q2 2024 Sales Numbers: Jeep Gladiator

[johnchabin]

From Jan 20th, 2021, average weekly earnings haven’t kept pace with prices. After adjusting for inflation, “real” weekly earnings declined 3.4%.

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[Florida Mojave]

Here's a thought "Corporate America" (ie Stellantis) - TRY LISTENING TO THE CONSUMER!
Maybe if you offered a model with the options we've been talking about on here for YEARS, your sales may grow!!
......rant over.... sorry, not sorry!!

 

[Mr._Bill]

Here's a thought "Corporate America" (ie Stellantis) - TRY LISTENING TO THE CONSUMER!
Maybe if you offered a model with the options we've been talking about on here for YEARS, your sales may grow!!
......rant over.... sorry, not sorry!!

They do listen to the consumer. They also have focus group meetings to get input. They are also impacted by the EPA regulations.

Sorry, but what is posted here does not represent the majority of Gladiator purchasers. They produced a Jeep that is a mid-sized pickup with 'best in class' towing. It is possible that They are content with the sales level and will just ride it out through the announced 2028 commitment. The Gladiator will either see a redesign or a discontinuation, depending on the success of the 4xe version.

 

[MPMB]

Bottom line is that yes, inflation was running hot for a while. Growth kept up for the most part, wages fell behind for a bit. Now both growth and wages are increasing faster than inflation. Your feelings or numbers that some guy makes up and claims to be "real" are irrelevant.

Says who? The tech sector is hemorrhaging jobs and workers, despite continued profits, aren't getting pay raises. The new practice is to make working for a company so miserable people will quit, saving the company the costs associated with firing them. There is a cost correction going on, trying to lower wages. For years tech workers have ping-ponged among the tech companies, getting a slight bump in pay each move. Same job 2 years later, but $20k+ more.

The only math where the statement "wages are increasing/outpacing inflation" works is if those metrics are looking at complete compensation - which includes employer-paid healthcare coverage.

Employees aren't seeing bigger paychecks, no matter how the administration spins it.

Not sure if this would be a big enough situation to move the needle, but what has also happened in the job markets of WA and CA? $15+ base pay for fast food workers, by law. This has forced other employers to increase their base wages. And that comes with increased costs to the consumer. Or the elimination of jobs altogether in those regions.

 

[MPMB]

They do listen to the consumer. They also have focus group meetings to get input. They are also impacted by the EPA regulations.

Sorry, but what is posted here does not represent the majority of Gladiator purchasers. They produced a Jeep that is a mid-sized pickup with 'best in class' towing. It is possible that They are content with the sales level and will just ride it out through the announced 2028 commitment. The Gladiator will either see a redesign or a discontinuation, depending on the success of the 4xe version.

I'm sure the braintrust at Jeep looked at the sales numbers.

The Wrangler and Tacoma had very similar numbers.

"What if we made a truck, but it looked like a Wrangler? Best of both worlds! We'd take away a ton of Tacoma customers!"

The Gladiator was introduced at one of the worst times, and it suffered in part of that. Paired with the idiotic pricing model, the bulk of potential customers are just walking over to RAM, Chevy, or Toyota. And for the past ~2 years, interest rates cut new auto buying. The only way to buy new customers is to subsidize the loan, which mfgs are starting to do that.

And now the JT is sitting with "old" technology and styling, while the new Tacoma hotness just dropped with ~40hp more in the hybrid drivetrain. Both top-of-the-line models are $63k.

Had Jeep truly listened to customers, there'd be a turbo'd 4cyl in the JT putting out 275-300hp, a V6 (NA or Turbo'd) putting out 300-350hp, and a souped-up version, either ~400hp V6t or an NA V8. I mean, it's not like Stellantis had a sister company in Italy that had options or anything.

The mandate from on high that said "everything from the rear seats forward is the same as a Wrangler" f**ked the customers.

 

[Flanders]

It's a gruesome violation when the price of my labor decreases.

It's inflationary when the price of another's labor increases.

Got it.

 

[Flanders]

Using 2020 as a baseline for any economic metric is cherry-picking and tantamount to lying. For example, one could argue from the data that:

• 2.4 million full-time jobs were lost between January 2017 and January 2021.
• 18.4 million full-time jobs have been added since January 2021.

Therefore the economy is in much better shape now.

See how easy it is to weaponize the data by cherry-picking? I'm not making this argument, I'm pointing out how foolish it is.

Take this kind of nonsense to the Yahoo Finance message boards. I'm told they can flush publish over 1 million rants a day. Here's My Life Story I Did Everything Right And The Economy Left Me Behind is a popular genre there.

 

[Badunit]

Here are Gladiator monthly sales figures since inception:

 

[Flanders]

Here are Gladiator monthly sales figures since inception:

Thank you. Can you provide a source? I thought Stellantis stopped reporting monthly sales awhile back.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Here's a thought "Corporate America" (ie Stellantis) - TRY LISTENING TO THE CONSUMER!
Maybe if you offered a model with the options we've been talking about on here for YEARS, your sales may grow!!
......rant over.... sorry, not sorry!!

They've long learned the options people TALK about are not the options that sell.

And they are a company in business to make money.

Any comments section would suggest a 2 door Gladiator is what people would love to buy, reality is 2 door Wrangler take rates struggle to even hit 10%.

Manual transmissions, same thing, most vocal people scream they love them, reality, people don't buy them.

Soft tops, base models, etc etc etc. People constantly gravitate to the, all this add on stuff is only another 23 dollars a month for 72 months.

 

[Badunit]

Thank you. Can you provide a source? I thought Stellantis stopped reporting monthly sales awhile back.

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2024-u-s-pickup-truck-sales-figures-by-model-with-rankings/

I do not know the source(s) of their data.

 

[Flanders]

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net

I've seen that site and I don't think they have accurate monthly figures. There are a lot of duplicates for the quarters since Stellantis stopped reporting monthly, e.g.,

2023 4,465 4,287 4,823 4,643 4,465 4,643 4,552 4,916 4,734 4,493 4,493 4,673
2024 4,273 4,273 4,444 3,406 3,542 3,542

The quarterly sums are fine but I think they're making up the monthly numbers.

 

[Breadman]

Says who?

Says no one. The data speaks for itself. The facts don't care about your feelings.

 

[Ruger_45]

I work for a company that embodies everything you said. They have been using there household name as credit card for several years off of what was once a good product. They have gotten greedy to ludicrous squared by Pi recently and disconnected with customers, moved to cheaper suppliers, and increased margins. Embraced wholesale the green ideology and dismissing what made this company. What’s worse as a field technician for this company it’s embarrassing to even have contact with the customer. They see us not local branch managers or corporate at all. Have to answer the questions everyday “holy shit what’s happening over there!”.

 

[Ruger_45]

Amen,Brother!

look at Sears and Mongomery Wards Gone

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