Take screenshots and save the images just as fast as he posts them, though.............those darned disappearing pixels.
Have to read carefully.
I couldn't recall what the D was "maxed" out at, but knew it was less than the Sport S M/T and Rubi/Moj flavors.If I recall correctly, it's a payload limit. I don't recall the towing numbers.
Using the numbers from our area - I did some calculations and found that if you consider only the fuel itself, the mpg thing is a wash as far as fuel cost per mile.
It will vary by location, but I could not justify a diesel based on mpg alone because the cost of the fuel would be a wash.
Considering the extra oil required each change and other maintenance, for me - made no sense at all.
Cost of ownership overall is likely higher for the diesel, so you pay for that torque/power/feel and the other abilities elsewhere.
Some can either justify it - by numbers or by preference. I can't.
Here we go - found my 2022 owner manual -
I was one of those very outspoken people who begged Jeep to build a pickup and begged Jeep to offer a diesel. So when the diesel Gladiator came out, I was a man of my word.
That cost, while maybe a bit high, was logical - the engine was heavy, required heavier suspension and steering parts, transmission and more.
Not that it exists yet, but that price diffrence just keeps getting more and more inflated. In 2022 when we were looking for a new JLUR people were throwing out wild numbers like $25-30k while not taking into account the standard features on the 392 from the auto to the color matched fenders and top to the leather seats. Speced out the same the real difference was more like $12k. Now granted some of those included options might be things you don't want so you could have saved more money buying a lower optioned v6, but claiming they were charging $30k for the engine and then comparing it to the base model rubicon with cloth seats, soft top, and the crap manual transmission was just dumb. Is $12k a lot for an engine option? Hell yes but I'd still pay it if it didn't have all those features I didn't want. Our JLUR is loaded but has the xr package and black hardtop and black fenders. It was about $20k less than the 392 with the xr package. Being it was the wife's and she didn't care about the hemi and hates the fully color matched look there was no selling her on $20k extra for a Jeep she didn't like the look of. Hoping they don't do the same with the gladiator since the cafe fines are gone. They had to load it up and maximize price and profits while limiting sales under the old rules.
I for one; Am tired of excuses just to raise the profit margin.
It’s been atleast 8 years since we’d bought a ‘new’ truck. We were surprised at how much the 2024 Mojave cost ($70K) MSRP. But then again… Everything else is almost just as expensive when you want ‘fully loaded’.
By my calculations, before the fine was dropped to $0, FCA would owe $5,000 per 2023 JLU 392 sold assuming 15 mpg for the JLU V8.
Yes, you can.............. American Express - good where-ever you go.
….. Not when you’re 6 feet under…….
Who says? They say where ever you go..........
