392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[ShadowsPapa]

Leaf springs ...LOL.
Tow package upgrade? So someone thinks the towing limits are simply springs and the suspension type. Just buy an F250 if you need more towing and payload

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[Wheelin98TJ]

The Gladiator line needs and deserves a legit tow package upgrade for $100k plus with leaf springs out back over Dana 60's front and rear and it'd own the market. Hell sell it for $120k with 37"s, offer the base 392 on 35"s for $100k, and then $70k for the 5.7 or $80k with the tow package. The pencil pushers may think they will lose 392 sales if they offer the 5.7, but Ford is selling plenty of garbage EcoJoke Rangers and Raptors while not having any trouble selling every last Raptor R.

Whoever brought up the Bronco Raptor its trash. They tried to sell the EcoJoke powered POS at a V8 premium. Comparing the cheapest V8 powered hard-core offroad rig to street cars is ignorant and childish also. Its in the elite V8 4x4 sales with the Raptor R, TRX, G Wagon, and Rovers which are all far more expensive.

If you can compare a 470 hp Jeep to 700 hp trucks, I have no problem with you also comparing the Jeep to street cars.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The Gladiator line needs and deserves a legit tow package upgrade for $100k plus with leaf springs out back over Dana 60's front and rear and it'd own the market. Hell sell it for $120k with 37"s, offer the base 392 on 35"s for $100k, and then $70k for the 5.7 or $80k with the tow package.

I'd love to see maximum articulation of a well-configured Jeep (even stock, for that matter) to that of leaf springs.
And you add all of that weight and want the same front end as the JT has now - and cool that beast? Really?

Would also love to see the tow and payload rating of a V8 JT - they can't keep the diesel cool in these things, and they pretty much maxed out cooling with the 3.6 and a much heavier JT with a V8 is going to run cool with the front end of a JT?
Sure, they have the 6.4 in the JL, but what's the towing ability? If left pulling 7,000 pounds in harsh conditions, how cool could it run?

Sorry, I've had all different configurations in many different vehicles. Leaf springs with any capacity ride like shit. The Ram doesn't use leaf springs and it tows just fine.

FCA already has a fair chunk of the market with a vehicle that can tow quite well - it's called Ram truck.
The JT was never intended to compete with the full-size heavy haulers.

(BTW - I can't tell you how many leaf spring issues I've seen over the years, including sagging, squeaking, bending, axle-wrapping, busted joints and more.)

 

[Zachanadandy]

Leaf springs ...LOL.
Tow package upgrade? So someone thinks the towing limits are simply springs and the suspension type. Just buy an F250 if you need more towing and payload

I'd suggest a ram 2500 but that's because of several terrible experiences with Ford. They'll never get another dime out of me. Why we are trying to build a 3/4 ton gladiator that now sucks off road is beyond me. If you need a full size truck why stick with the narrow body and lack of interior space?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I'd suggest a ram 2500 but that's because of several terrible experiences with Ford. They'll never get another dime out of me. Why we are trying to build a 3/4 ton gladiator that now sucks off road is beyond me. If you need a full size truck why stick with the narrow body and lack of interior space?

IF I had needed to go to another full-size truck, when I got rid of my Chevy (which had been 100% trouble-free, not a single issue, ever), I'd have strongly looked at Ram. At that time, Ford didn't impress me, and I'd owned one that just wasn't up to snuff, a lot of annoying things.
My wife and I both really liked the Ram loaner we had when her JLU was in the shop for Safelite screw-ups.

And the rest - yeah, trying to build big truck on a small foundation - suddenly you have neither.

 

[JTGuy]

Along with my JT, I have a Ram 2500 4x4 diesel, 2014. With a full Thuren soft ride suspension and it rides better on the freeway than my JT and gets better MPG with more room and range. Several of the U tube overlanders are going to full size. For dirt roads and level 1&2 it's great. With some gears , locker, and 37's it would do much more.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

With a full Thuren soft ride suspension and it rides better on the freeway than my JT and gets better MPG with more room and range

It's wide, long, heavy and is made for the highway.
It also has the advantage of other design features to reduce drag and increase mpg.
With the increase in side comes the ability to put in a larger fuel tank (of course a diesel will have more range anyway)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Still looking for an article showing an actual quote where the CEO said this so that it could not be mistaken for something else -

392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

Please show those words spoken by the man. Not implied, not suggested, no room for wiggle, but where it's actually been said.

I'm not saying it is NOT happening, I'm just loving how things can be made to say almost anything based on the listeners desired or agenda.
It may well happen, could be the end of 2026, who the hell knows????? Not even the CEO can say anything like that! He's an executive expressing his visions, not what the people under him really see. It might be that for 2027, starting in 26, we see two more engines offered in the JT, could happen, but where did the CEO confirm the 392 would definitely be in a Gladiator?

 

[Janster]

Who says? They say where ever you go..........
By their marketing, should be good all over hell.

I don’t have any kids…so, If there’s anything left…. I’d rather not let the government get their hands on it. Oh hell no!!!

 

[Janster]

I think this thread has jumped the shark and it's time to ignore.

Ahh C’mon….. it’s fun!! …. random conversations going back-n-forth….
It’s kinda like sitting around the camp fire and everyone’s had a few…. random shit just comes up.

 

[chr15m]

Still looking for an article showing an actual quote where the CEO said this so that it could not be mistaken for something else -

392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

Please show those words spoken by the man. Not implied, not suggested, no room for wiggle, but where it's actually been said.

I'm not saying it is NOT happening, I'm just loving how things can be made to say almost anything based on the listeners desired or agenda.
It may well happen, could be the end of 2026, who the hell knows????? Not even the CEO can say anything like that! He's an executive expressing his visions, not what the people under him really see. It might be that for 2027, starting in 26, we see two more engines offered in the JT, could happen, but where did the CEO confirm the 392 would definitely be in a Gladiator?

Start at 1:10.

At ~1:40:
"We will extend the availability of the 392 on wrangler, and if fact we will tap the power and performance of the Hemi across Jeep products.

Then transitions into the Gladiator, doesn't say it explicitly but makes no other relative reference to the JT that changes the focus of the conversation.

At 2:10:
" So Wrangler and Gladiator fans, and fans of the Hemi in general don't worry we got it".

That's a lot of tying the JT to a conversation solely about the Hemi and its continuation in the JLU and specifically stating multiple power train options and extension of the Hemi across the Jeep line.

https://[Banned Site]/jeep-boss-confirms-the-hemi-v8-is-here-to-stay/

This of course wont change anything for anyone unless they're really open to having their mind changed. I've seen it before, even those that will hold till the last second to denying will ultimately switch to negating once it hits the pavement.

We should be happy their willing to reinvest in the platform honestly.

For those deterred by the assumed high ticket cost for a 392 JT, I wouldn't be surprised if the 3L SST ultimately made its way under the hood. With it being as unpopular as it has in comparison to the 5.7 on the 1500s I doubt it'd be a top tier in the JLU or JT.

Which would be great since I've seen stock 1500s hitting 60 in the low 5s with the 3l SST stock.

The nice thing with options is being able to to make the choice, everyone on here that has the EcoDiesel is living proof that a 392 wouldn't be a bad thing. Unless everyone that had the EcoDiesel on here happened to regret their choice.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Start at 1:10.

At ~1:40:
"We will extend the availability of the 392 on wrangler, and if fact we will tap the power and performance of the Hemi across Jeep products.

Then transitions into the Gladiator, doesn't say it explicitly but makes no other relative reference to the JT that changes the focus of the conversation.

At 2:10:
" So Wrangler and Gladiator fans, and fans of the Hemi in general don't worry we got it".

That's a lot of tying the JT to a conversation solely about the Hemi and its continuation in the JLU and specifically stating multiple power train options and extension of the Hemi across the Jeep line.

Yeah, seen the conversations and it reminds me of the Florida woman jumping up and down "xxxx is going to pay my mortgage!"

like I said - there are hints in there, and it might well happen, could be now in the changed climate of the NHTSA CAFE rules, relaxed fines and so on.
But to say "he said so" is a bit different.

Hints, and the words "across Jeep products" is something if you figure - what Jeep products? JL, JT and Grand Cherokee, Wagoneer are about it - Renegade? LOL. Compass or Cherokee - yeah, right.
So one could infer because there's really nothing else to bother with a V8 in.
But the title says he CONFIRMED exactly that the JT would get the hemi.
No - hinted, inferred, perhaps, but didn't confirm.
Let's be real here and not make the title itself CLICKBAIT.
A bit of honesty, perhaps.

We should be happy their willing to reinvest in the platform honestly.

Absolutely - I figure as long as they make these, I'll have one as my truck. I don't want to see it go away, so really, whatever is necessary to keep it around at least partially in the current form, tweaks here and there, I'm all for it!
I was afraid it was going away, but it seems he's implying - not so fast........

The nice thing with options is being able to to make the choice, everyone on here that has the EcoDiesel is living proof that a 392 wouldn't be a bad thing.

I believe people buy the diesel because it IS a diesel with the positive attributes of a diesel, not much else. Some, if not many, diesel people want diesel, not gas.

 

[chr15m]

Yeah, seen the conversations and it reminds me of the Florida woman jumping up and down "xxxx is going to pay my mortgage!"

like I said - there are hints in there, and it might well happen, could be now in the changed climate of the NHTSA CAFE rules, relaxed fines and so on.
But to say "he said so" is a bit different.

Hints, and the words "across Jeep products" is something if you figure - what Jeep products? JL, JT and Grand Cherokee, Wagoneer are about it - Renegade? LOL. Compass or Cherokee - yeah, right.
So one could infer because there's really nothing else to bother with a V8 in.
But the title says he CONFIRMED exactly that the JT would get the hemi.
No - hinted, inferred, perhaps, but didn't confirm.
Let's be real here and not make the title itself CLICKBAIT.
A bit of honesty, perhaps.



Absolutely - I figure as long as they make these, I'll have one as my truck. I don't want to see it go away, so really, whatever is necessary to keep it around at least partially in the current form, tweaks here and there, I'm all for it!
I was afraid it was going away, but it seems he's implying - not so fast........



I believe people buy the diesel because it IS a diesel with the positive attributes of a diesel, not much else. Some, if not many, diesel people want diesel, not gas.

"Absolutely - I figure as long as they make these, I'll have one as my truck. I don't want to see it go away, so really, whatever is necessary to keep it around at least partially in the current form, tweaks here and there, I'm all for it!
I was afraid it was going away, but it seems he's implying - not so fast........"

As someone that first encountered the "Jeep Truck", meaning the Gladiator "in a sense", as the AEV Brute, I hoped this very truck would become a real thing.

That was years before the Gladiator was announced. Years of saying I so badly want that and would pray for the opportunity to have that. Then it was announced and labeled Jeep as a lifestyle truck, wherein they knew their price tag would exclude customers in the segment. I was really disappointed. Two years go by and a lack of sales resulted in making it a feasible choice, so I finally pulled the trigger and bought my dream truck. It has been just that ever since luckily.

In my personal opinion the JT is literally a poster child for the enthusiast truck. Competitors can out do this truck in so many ways and yet it still exists, it even seemed at moments like Jeep may just hang it up and say they tried. Yet in the last few months I've seen so many JTs in the wild.

If there ever is a 392 JT I almost certainly will not be able to convince myself to pay what Jeep will surely ask. Still, I hope it happens. I spent too many years with Toyota and Honda. Driving the S2000 and watching its tombstone get planted in 2009, only to watch Honda release poor facsimiles of the S for years. The rise and fall of the MK V Supra as well.

Basically, anything we get represents the continuation of this truck, which as a odd and wonderful as it is, is nothing but a great thing.

 

[Mojave2021]

I thought my 2021 Mojave seemed like a lot to pay for a Jeep truck at $50K- not paying an extra $50K for a V8. Was hoping for the 5.7 as well but knowing Jeep they’ll charge $90K for that option anyways. Agree with others that I could never risk taking a $100K vehicle off road either. I am also curious if they’re really going to produce the 4XE now that they’re getting V8 happy again.

 

[skiptheroad]

The Gladiator line needs and deserves a legit tow package upgrade for $100k plus with leaf springs out back over Dana 60's front and rear and it'd own the market. Hell sell it for $120k with 37"s, offer the base 392 on 35"s for $100k, and then $70k for the 5.7 or $80k with the tow package. The pencil pushers may think they will lose 392 sales if they offer the 5.7, but Ford is selling plenty of garbage EcoJoke Rangers and Raptors while not having any trouble selling every last Raptor R.

Whoever brought up the Bronco Raptor its trash. They tried to sell the EcoJoke powered POS at a V8 premium. Comparing the cheapest V8 powered hard-core offroad rig to street cars is ignorant and childish also. Its in the elite V8 4x4 sales with the Raptor R, TRX, G Wagon, and Rovers which are all far more expensive.

Jeep produced the J8 version of the JK for military use and the mining industry which had the larger rear differential and rear leaf springs for increased payload and durability. Interestingly, Ford recently introduced the Ranger Heavy Duty in Australia. It to has rear leaf springs for increased payload as well. The Ranger Heavy Duty is an interesting truck that I'd consider buying for use on our farm if available in the U.S. The size would be ideal but the F150 will prevent its arrival on U.S. soil though which is unfortunate. The full size trucks have grown quite a bit over the past few decades almost to the point of being to large for our farm and for how we use our trucks. I've given up buying any new models for now resorting to lightly used and rebuilt 90's and early 2000's models.

The Gladiators rear coil springs and D44 axle are sufficient for the masses, though a heavy duty option with a V8 as you suggested would be interesting to me but not for 100k.

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