392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[Supazuk]

Bro, get out of here, we're trying to argue over leaf springs.

1/4 elips, elliptical or buggy?

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[Breadman]

I still don’t see where it’s actually confirmed. Like “2027 Gladiator V8 available xx/xx/xx” confirmed. Just some mealy mouthed bs for now. But if it does happen, the moment of truth.

Since day one, we’ve heard from that loud little tribe of hemisexuals about their fantasies of a V8 ROARRRRrrr!!!

Always a crime, they claim, that it wasn’t an option from the start. The engine the Gladiator was truly built for.

But after years of V8 wet dreams, are they man enough to drop some coin and pull the trigger or will they chicken out as usual? I think we all know the answer to that.

"Premium fuel cost"
"Dealer markup and allocation games bro"
"I'll wait out the first year bugs"
"Can't tow 12,000 lbs"
"Muh use case doesn't require it"
“Well maybe the balanced and reliable Pentastar is actually just fine"

 

[Supazuk]

Now the question is, will jeep install the V8's in house this round? That would open doors for better DIY swaps on older models

 

[Supazuk]

I still don’t see where it’s actually confirmed. Like “2027 Gladiator V8 available xx/xx/xx” confirmed.......

But after years of V8 wet dreams, are they man enough to drop some coin and pull the trigger or will they chicken out as usual? I think we all know the answer to that.

not gonna run out and buy a new one ... I will however be taking pics and notes to swap my own ( we don't need no stinking inspections up here )

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I know the word "Hemi" is trademarked and they can call it anything they want, but isn't it just a "semi-hemi"?
My fear would be they'd use the MDS version in the JT - and we'd have the semi-hemi tick.
There's little reason FCA would not use the MDS system in a small vehicle like the JT, especially to try to keep up with the NHTSA CAFE rules "just in case" (to fall way behind and ignore the numbers would be asking for hell-to-pay catching up should the rules change once again)

 

[JTGuy]

Look at my signature.. I have installed all of them myself in my garage. I just don't know if I have the desire to do it all over again on a 392. It was all fun the first time but again seems just a little like too much just to void a warranty. Here in So Cal I have never seen a V8 Gladiator.

 

[Supazuk]

Look at my signature.. I have installed all of them myself in my garage. I just don't know if I have the desire to do it all over again on a 392. It was all fun the first time but again seems just a little like too much just to void a warranty. Here in So Cal I have never seen a V8 Gladiator.

I gave up on that, there is a greater chance of convincing a hooker to wear a wedding ring, then getting Jeep to honor their own warranty

 

[houseofdiesel]

Lol, leaf springs really you would actually pay hard earned cash for old tech okay here I go...

Its a JEEP it goes off road .
Leafs hold the axles from dropping the capabilities of the Jeep would go out of the window. There would be no more rolling up over huge uneven obstacles without lots of rollovers. Leaf springs are for blacktop on road heavy hauler.
This is a Jeep an OFF-ROAD capable vehicle . I cant believe what I am reading .

Ya Yota's haven't been embarrassing the F out of Jeeps for decades on trails with leaf springs.

 

[houseofdiesel]

Look at all the trophy trucks and ultra 4 cars running leaf springs...oh wait there aren't any. Deavers are great, for leaf springs. I'm sure your trucks are faster than pro4 trucks though? Deavers are as good as it gets with leaf springs, comparing them to a stock gladiator is just silly. The other drawback of leaves, especially flexible ones, is axle wrap. I ran deavers in the back of my xj. Bound up in the rocks with enough traction in the rear they would wrap enough to grenade the rear drive shaft. Looked into building an anti wrap bar after the 2nd time, but figured if I was going to run any links there was no need for leaf springs. Triangulated 4 link and air shocks. Way more flex and 0 axle wrap. Never broke another rear driveshaft. As far as for hauling you can run into the same issue. Trying to pull a 10k pounds trailer from a stop up a loose hill can quickly turn to axle wrap, wheel hop, and broken parts. 4 links practically eliminate that altogether (the bushings flex enough to allow a very tiny amount but nothing like leaf springs). My ram 1500 with air suspension didn't care if I overloaded the bed with a 2700lb pallet of bird seed or drug an 8500lb trailer with the JLUR in it through the trail looking for a camping spot.

They sure as hell aren't running coils either. They are running triple rate coilovers on 6' long lower control arms with 18" travel tucked 3/4 of the way up the cab. Not ideal for mass production or the real world. Axle wrap? Oh you're talking about the brainless employees that have zero clue how to drive and drop the clutch? We weed them out and hand them their papers real quick. Those morons manage to destroy 4 link systems just as easily. As the owner of a repair shop, I've seen no shortage of morons destroying those Ram suspensions. My wife loved her Kelderman system but it wasn't doing jack shit offroad. It was installed for easy ingress egress due to her RA. My nephew thought his Ram 1500 air ride system was really cool until he took it to the ranch and it all fell apart.

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

It’s been atleast 8 years since we’d bought a ‘new’ truck. We were surprised at how much the 2024 Mojave cost ($70K) MSRP. But then again… Everything else is almost just as expensive when you want ‘fully loaded’.

… as my mom used to say…“You can’t take it with you”

If I had 100K ....I’d rather spend it on a JT with a V8 than a Tacoma with a V8.

Yep!

Maybe, You guys could start a new flamer suspension thread. Leaf springs vs Coils vs Coil Overs vs Airbags vs hydraulics vs whatev.

I only know, that when Jeep went to coils in the Wrangler ( TJ ) it was a game changer.

Back to the Main topic: I think Stellas new 3.0 straight 6 turbo is the one they have in mind. Maybe not. They can call it a "Hemi" because they own the rights.

Now, most modern engines have hemispherical heads anyway.

But, when postulating, I am usually wrong.

Be well. Jeep on.

Eric

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Now, most modern engines have hemispherical heads anyway.

Not even the modern hemi has hemispherical shaped combustion chambers.
They are a "pent roof" or more of a tent design.
Real hemis are inefficient and you can't go 4 valve/cylinder with a true hemi.
They also have added quench areas or pads which a hemi won't have.
Hemi is just a name these days. Inefficient compared to other modern designs and poor with emissions.
Hemis with domed piston heads also spread the area out where the flame front must progress, making is a slow burn chamber.
The large intake valves of the hemi were fine for high RPM power but slowed the intake charge coming in - also bad.
It's just a name these days - has little meaning with modern engines.

 

[Thunderspud]

Back to the Main topic: I think Stellas new 3.0 straight 6 turbo is the one they have in mind. Maybe not. They can call it a "Hemi" because they own the rights.

Not that I am saying they won't......but it sure seems like they would have chosen to refer to that engine as a Hemi at some point before now if they were gonna go that route, right? I think trying that maneuver, at this point in time, on this vehicle, would just get them laughed out of the market.

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

Not that I am saying they won't......but it sure seems like they would have chosen to refer to that engine as a Hemi at some point before now if they were gonna go that route, right? I think trying that maneuver, at this point in time, on this vehicle, would just get them laughed out of the market.

Well, you may be right.

But getting laughed out of the market; Naw. No one cares anymore what you call it. That was old school.

It is a hand to mouth world these days. History only means something to old dudes like me.

Give a Gladiator a 500hp engine and people will buy it, if priced right. Not many will care if it's a 6.4 V8 or 5.7 V8 or a 3.0 turbo straight 6.

Be well. Jeep on.

Eric

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

Not even the modern hemi has hemispherical shaped combustion chambers.
They are a "pent roof" or more of a tent design.
Real hemis are inefficient and you can't go 4 valve/cylinder with a true hemi.
They also have added quench areas or pads which a hemi won't have.
Hemi is just a name these days. Inefficient compared to other modern designs and poor with emissions.
Hemis with domed piston heads also spread the area out where the flame front must progress, making is a slow burn chamber.
The large intake valves of the hemi were fine for high RPM power but slowed the intake charge coming in - also bad.
It's just a name these days - has little meaning with modern engines.

You know more than most can believe that you do. Hard to believe on the internet.

You are an awesome resource of knowledge. Or completely full of shit...

But...

I think that you are legit. Thank you.

Be well. Jeep on.

Eric

 

[Stan H]

Cmon... the reason these threads go 13 pages deep because of outlandish statements like that!

How we went from celebrating the seeming prospect of a V8 JT to talking leaf springs in them is mind blowing and expected at the same time. People love saying shit to get others going. Rage bait.

It ain't rage bait it is just a rational response to irrational thinking.
Again thing about it .. even going to a big V8 changes the characteristics of a super light nimble off road machine into a Horsepower Hard-hitting monstrosity
want to talk about frame stress, ball joints stress, spring stress .. dont try and label my comment which was in response to illogical thinking.
Rage on that !!!

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