2026 Jeep JT Hybrid

[D_JT]

Gee, really? We bought going in knowing what it was all about. My wife has gone 500 miles and 3 months on 9.9 gallons of gas.
It gets plugged in after each trip.

We had a Grand Cherokee 4Xe as a loaner for 2 months. With a round trip commute to and from work of 60 miles, 50/50 highway and surface streets. In hybrid mode the battery would last 80% of the trip one way. So the last 20% and the entire trip back home was all gas. I did give it a chance and I did try to drive light footed and I even used the regenerative braking. I charged it at home every day. From roughly sub 5% to 100%, which would take 13+ hours from a 110 outlet. Our electric bill doubled (We dont have solar and dont plan to). We were also filling up about once a week. My Eco diesel JT has been more cost effective then what the 4xe was. I guess putting around town and driving a few miles a day the 4xe could make sense. For us, the 4xe was disappointing. Glad it was a loaner. The diesel has been better.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Force is the wrong word. I would say "entice." The $7500 tax credit certainly helps spur the purchase.

And yet, the sticker price, MSRP, of our JLU Rubicon 4xe wasn't much over that of a 3.6 Sahara with fewer features, and it was 20K under the V8 version. So really, apples to apples, the price wasn't much higher than comparables. I did compare - what triggered our looking was the reign Sahara I showed my wife a picture of - and suddenly, she was reminded she wanted a purple Jeep.
The prices weren't that different, not really. Yes, with the tax "rebate", is was CHEAPER than a comparable JLU Rubicon, but even without that, it really wasn't all that much higher if comparing MSRP of like to like vehicles.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We had a Grand Cherokee 4Xe as a loaner for 2 months. With a round trip commute to and from work of 60 miles, 50/50 highway and surface streets. In hybrid mode the battery would last 80% of the trip one way. So the last 20% and the entire trip back home was all gas. I did give it a chance and I did try to drive light footed and I even used the regenerative braking. I charged it at home every day. From roughly sub 5% to 100%, which would take 13+ hours from a 110 outlet. Our electric bill doubled (We dont have solar and dont plan to). We were also filling up about once a week. My Eco diesel JT has been more cost effective then what the 4xe was. I guess putting around town and driving a few miles a day the 4xe could make sense. For us, the 4xe was disappointing. Glad it was a loaner. The diesel has been better.

Sorry, it's never all gas. It's always a hybrid.
We can get 20 ACTUAL MPG without charging the batteries - since it's always a hybrid and never all gas, I'd say that's damned good on a RUBICON BRICK. Who else gets 20 mpg with a JLU Rubicon????? (not diesel)
(you can choose to save the battery and kick it into a mostly gas mode and then use the electric power in town where it really counts)

It takes 2.25 hours to charge ours. (I installed a level 2 charger in our garage)
My wife takes it to town and back, and the last mile might be in hybrid mode (again, these are never all gas), she gets anywhere from 20-25 on all electric before it kicks into hybrid mode.

The braking is always regenerative - the button is a bit deceiving in how that works......... watch the gauges, let off the gas and it always regenerates during decel or braking, the button changes how forcefully it's applied. But the net gain back to the battery is pretty much always the same.

We figure it costs my wife about $1.18 for 25 miles in the winter, and about $1.70 per 25 miles of driving in the summer. We don't have solar, either. Iowa does typically export electricity and Iowa is about 80% renewable power.
Who else can drive a Wrangler 4 door Rubicon 25 miles for under a buck and a quarter? Or under 2 bucks in the summer?

 

[Sandman 4x4]

Personally I’d rather have a Hybrid Gladiator than 392! Who needs 8-14 mpg or whatever it is in guzzler territory. I have solar in my home so I could plug in while home or with my wall batteries plug in over night to top off the electric distance driven for free, about 25-30 miles? Not to mention all the plug in stations in my places of interest. Being retired I can stay at home if I want so charging is not an issue, if the range is on the high side of 30, that means most of my days will be at least half free, saving at least $30/week!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Personally I’d rather have a Hybrid Gladiator than 392! Who needs 8-14 mpg or whatever it is in guzzler territory. I have solar in my home so I could plug in while home or with my wall batteries plug in over night to top off the electric distance driven for free, about 25-30 miles? Not to mention all the plug in stations in my places of interest. Being retired I can stay at home if I want so charging is not an issue, if the range is on the high side of 30, that means most of my days will be at least half free, saving at least $30/week!

When we were down there a couple of years ago, it was amazing how many places there were to charge up - some for free, some for cheap.
You get the power of a larger engine, crazy torque right from 0 RPM on up, and yeah, the 14 mpg of the V8 is a joke. Mine is a daily driver.......... with with a level 2 charger here that could be shared between two vehicles....

The JT system is said to be even more torque and HP than that used in the JLU. ZF has a newer transmission out with better, more efficient motor in it. Longer range, lower power use.

I wish I had the expertise around here for solar - I'd absolutely consider it for:
BACKUP POWER when we lose the normal electricity, and it happens a fair amount, being out here at the very end of the line
and
to simply supplement things, cutting the normal bill down (which really isn't bad, here, electricity is some of the cheapest in the country)

 

[willys 41]

I live in Southern California. There are currently a lot more 3.6 and 2.0 Jeeps on the lots than 4xes. They can't keep the 4xes in stock for long. The state, while being very EV promoting, doesn't offer rebates anymore either. People like hybrids. More power and fuel savings

You can't compare California with the rest of the country.

People here in Ca. have no choice but to find some way to save on living cost.

Gas is the highest in the county. Taxes will put you in the pour house. We have some of the worst roads in the county. I could go on and on.

Now I just heard on the radio something about a new 175k tax on home sales. I did not get the hole interview and may be wrong on some info but he did give an example. If you are paying rent of lets say $3000 a month these new cost that the property owner has to pay will be passed to the renter and his example was your rent will now be $4000 a month. He also stated the home prices will sky rocket. Meaning now your house cost more so now you also have higher property tax's. They can't seem to understand why people and businesses are moving out of California.
Stupid is as stupid does.

I do not own or will ever own a hybrids. I have two 3.6 Wrangler and one diesel F250.

 

[AustyPosty]

Nah, and even when the headlines said that, still plenty of ICE Wranglers on dealer lots here in sunny SoCal.

Yeah, I have no doubt they still had plenty of left over ICE wranglers rotting on lots all throughout when they could only get new stock of 4xe’s. https://www.jalopnik.com/stellantis-blames-california-for-lack-of-internal-combu-1851085292/

 

[willys 41]

I believe the 4xe was the only wrangler for sale in states like California. Dunno if that’s still the case

When I drive though the jeep lots here in Ca. that all I see 4xe and one 392.

 

[NOTJeepBeerSleep]

Ya know, it gets pretty bad when people toss out attempted insults like this "fan boy" bullshit when all someone is trying to do is counter the junk being tossed out by haters.
Once that sort of thing starts, it generally means the person has run out of factual and logical information and has to come out swinging to continue the fight - a fight they have made it when there was no fight to begin with.

You don't have to be a "fan" to see where the crap is (pretty much always from those who are tossing the insults and hate) - I can take them or leave them, but when I see someone coming in with nothing but crap based on hate and a total lack of logic or fact, then I will counter it. If that makes me look like a "fan boy" so be it - but it's simply trying to counter the crap out there that people with so much hate, instead of critical thinking ability, toss out.
Any time anything with an electric motor is mentioned, the crap oozes out of the woodwork.

We're just countering it with fact and reason, instead of so much hate based on - basically, nothing but personal hate for something.

I happen to like the one we have. My first choice might have been a 3.6, but having owned, driven one, and seeing all of the positive attributes (contrary to what people here toss out, I know how they can and do operate), I'm quite fine with it and would look at a 4xe Gladiator. Buy? Well, that depends, but yes, I'd look.

he quoted me, what bullshit was i saying?

 

[NOTJeepBeerSleep]

Ya know, it gets pretty bad when people toss out attempted insults like this "fan boy" bullshit when all someone is trying to do is counter the junk being tossed out by haters.
Once that sort of thing starts, it generally means the person has run out of factual and logical information and has to come out swinging to continue the fight - a fight they have made it when there was no fight to begin with.

You don't have to be a "fan" to see where the crap is (pretty much always from those who are tossing the insults and hate) - I can take them or leave them, but when I see someone coming in with nothing but crap based on hate and a total lack of logic or fact, then I will counter it. If that makes me look like a "fan boy" so be it - but it's simply trying to counter the crap out there that people with so much hate, instead of critical thinking ability, toss out.
Any time anything with an electric motor is mentioned, the crap oozes out of the woodwork.

We're just countering it with fact and reason, instead of so much hate based on - basically, nothing but personal hate for something.

I happen to like the one we have. My first choice might have been a 3.6, but having owned, driven one, and seeing all of the positive attributes (contrary to what people here toss out, I know how they can and do operate), I'm quite fine with it and would look at a 4xe Gladiator. Buy? Well, that depends, but yes, I'd look.

you combat anti electric car "bullshit" like its your fulltime job cat man

 

[NOTJeepBeerSleep]

Context isn't your atrong suit. The dealer is doing the ordering. Trackin?

its still not ignoring the law. ignoring the law wouldn't be sneaking a few units through an established loop hole. ignoring the law would be filling the lots with typical dealer allocations. Rah?

 

[JTdiRtyD]

People that have never driven a hybrid nor an EV always try to act like some EV expert and hate on them. We get it, you don't like change and are worried about your man card.

Increased complexity? Sure, but what ICE vehicle hasn't done the same in the past decade?
Increased maintenance costs? Sure, but again, what ICE vehicle hasn't done the same in the past decade?
Better for the environment? Debatable. There's give and take in every aspect of this. Better in some ways, worse in others.

Torque on demand and available at all speeds and rpms.
Torque and power always available even at high elevations.
Fuel cost savings, even if sometimes small.
Full EV don't always have the range, but hybrids can extend a good amount.

Reality is hybrids and EV can be great. Do I think they are the end-all-be-all solution? Not even close. Do I think they have their place? Yes. Do I prefer the rumble and noise from ICE? Yes. Do I think people just want to piss and moan? Absolutely.

 

[willys 41]

People that have never driven a hybrid nor an EV always try to act like some EV expert and hate on them. We get it, you don't like change and are worried about your man card.

Increased complexity? Sure, but what ICE vehicle hasn't done the same in the past decade?
Increased maintenance costs? Sure, but again, what ICE vehicle hasn't done the same in the past decade?
Better for the environment? Debatable. There's give and take in every aspect of this. Better in some ways, worse in others.

Torque on demand and available at all speeds and rpms.
Torque and power always available even at high elevations.
Fuel cost savings, even if sometimes small.
Full EV don't always have the range, but hybrids can extend a good amount.

Reality is hybrids and EV can be great. Do I think they are the end-all-be-all solution? Not even close. Do I think they have their place? Yes. Do I prefer the rumble and noise from ICE? Yes. Do I think people just want to piss and moan? Absolutely.

Do I take chances that something is going to fail when I am out in the middle of know where with my ICE Jeep. YES.
Will I take the chance that some thing will fail with a complicated 4xe and nobody around to fix it. NO.

 

[JTdiRtyD]

Do I take chances that something is going to fail when I am out in the middle of know where with my ICE Jeep. YES.
Will I take the chance that some thing will fail with a complicated 4xe and nobody around to fix it. NO.

Like I stated, they have their place. If that place for you isn't on the trail (or "in the middle of nowhere"), then so be it. That doesn't mean they are garbage, it just means it's not for you. Not everyone is on the trail, some owners never leave the asphalt therefor a 4xE is probably perfectly fine for them.

 

[biodiesel]

And Americans have never been diesel fans like the rest of the world. The German brands all struggled to sell diesels here, the baby duramax sold just as poorly as the ecodiesel. Every brand sells small diesels everywhere else but here, and it's not because of some conspiracy, people just don't want them.

The EcoDiesel exceeded sale expectations. When the EcoDiesel was first released in 2014, Ram received an astonishing 8,000+ preorders. The sales were so good, that Ram and Jeep had to increase production numbers. Eventually, Ram and Jeep were at full capacity. In other words, they were selling vehicles supplied with the diesel faster than Italy could produce the engines. There were inside rumors that Jeep had plans to put the EcoDiesel in the Grand Wagoneer but nixed the decision because there weren't enough engines to supply the Ram 1500, Gladiator, and Wrangler after they increased production numbers.

The EcoDiesel was only discontinued because the CP4 pump recall required a stop sale. Ram and Jeep could no longer sell the engine until the new part was available which took over a year. And once the part was manufactured, there were not enough parts to satisfy both the recall and production. I wouldn't be surprised if the EcoDiesel returns for 2027.

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