392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[gonemad]

I’m not giving up on V8s.

My first one. ’67 390 FE Dad bought new. I bought it from him in ’74 and beat the crap out of it in the mountains of NC.

A couple of other recents-
’92 5.0 Mustang

’04 SVT Cobra

But my favorite, 2017 Ford truck with a Coyote

So I’m not done with V8s just yet, as long as they can still be had.

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[ChrisNLA]

I’m not giving up on V8s.

My first one. ’67 390 FE Dad bought it new. I bought it from him in ’74.

A couple of other recents-
’92 5.0 Mustang

’04 SVT Cobra

But my favorite, 2017 Ford truck with a Coyote

So I’m not done with V8s just yet, as long as they can still be had.

Coworker of mine has a Coyote F150 with 360,000 miles on it.

The engine has never been opened.

Good trucks

 

[gonemad]

Coworker of mine has a Coyote F150 with 360,000 miles on it.

The engine has never been opened.

Good trucks

I traded mine with 115K and only replaced the tires, a battery, the clock spring in the steering wheel, and flushed/replaced the coolant.

 

[Stan H]

At some point people will have to accept that the V8 is old stuff and buying on sound alone won't work. Eventually, the V8 will die - it's going to happen at some point, especially on light trucks - midsize trucks.
There's little point to them other than sound - and I was raised on V8s when they were true muscle cars and the big blocks and REAL hemis were a thing.

Alot of V6's will out run a V8 , they have made great advances in the V6

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Alot of V6's will out run a V8 , they have made great advances in the V6

sure they will - just visit a drag strip any weekend and you can watch muscle cars get trounced by Japanese and Korean cars - some of them almost stock.

 

[Mr Miami]

The V8 rumblings is what gives a lot of vehicles their soul.
Without that incredible V8 sound rumbling under the hood, I just never get that same feeling or enjoyment out of a little turbo 4 or 6 banger under the hood.

I could care less about the screaming little small displacement 4 banger turbos, be it they are built bullet proof or still a POS, I still don't like them either way.
No soul to them.

Just IMO.

Perhaps have the speakers make the revving sound to make it sound like a V8. They did that or perhaps still do something like that on electric vehicles so people can hear them coming. Maybe have several different sound options to make it sound like a big V8 or more of a tuned exhaust muffler.

Have a speaker in the rear of the vehicle to add to the effect.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Coworker of mine has a Coyote F150 with 360,000 miles on it.

The engine has never been opened.

Good trucks

I have a 2020 that got a new motor at 27k miles.

 

[cc1999]

Alot of V6's will out run a V8 , they have made great advances in the V6

Doesn't matter.
‘I have always preferred a v8 to anything else as far as gas engines.
‘Back in 85 I was shopping for a new car and narrowed down my choices to the Buick Regal, Monte SS, and Olds Cuttlas 442. Loved the look of the Regal Grand national i knew it was easily the fastest of the 3, but the Turbo 6 was a deal breaker, I ordered the Monte SS in black and pulled the decals off to make it look a little more like the Grand National, only with a 305 v8. Wasn’t crazy fast or anything, but was fast enough, and had that sweet soulful v8 rumbling under the hood.

Point being, after over 40 years of feeling and thinking like this about the v8, I really doubt I grow out of, or age out of my desire or preference of having a v8s under the hood.


It’s hard to beat this sound. I just love it.

 

[WilldWilly]

When will people understand turbo 4 cylinders and v6s have to rev to the moon won't last long as something that gets in it's torque band starting in the low rpms. All my V8 cars including 94 impala ss, and Pontiac g8 all get into the torque at a much lower rpm than the 3.6. The 3.6 needs 4400 rpms to get to 260 ft lbs, and just two hundred below red line to get to max hp. Maybe they can at least put the 3.0 Hurricane into the Gladiator. I do not care what they put in it, but the current 3.6 is not powerful enough for the gladiator. I am mind blown by people who put lifts with big tires on the gladiator. They must gear them to the moon.

 

[ChrisNLA]

When will people understand turbo 4 cylinders and v6s have to rev to the moon won't last long as something that gets in it's torque band starting in the low rpms. All my V8 cars including 94 impala ss, and Pontiac g8 all get into the torque at a much lower rpm than the 3.6. The 3.6 needs 4400 rpms to get to 260 ft lbs, and just two hundred below red line to get to max hp. Maybe they can at least put the 3.0 Hurricane into the Gladiator. I do not care what they put in it, but the current 3.6 is not powerful enough for the gladiator. I am mind blown by people who put lifts with big tires on the gladiator. They must gear them to the moon.

The small turbo motors don't have to rev particularly hard to make power.

The 2.7 Turbomax from GM is something like 350 TQ starting at 1,500 RPM, falling off at 4K. 310HP at 5,600 RPM. The 6.2L L99 V8 in my Camaro doesn't actually make peak HP until 5,900 RPM, and makes peak torque from about 2700 through to around 4500 I think it was.

Now, they ARE under substantial pressure from boost.

Some engines, like the 2.7 Ecoboost have compacted graphite iron blocks just like the Powerstroke Diesel, and other design features that are very similar for durability. The 2.7 (2nd gen, especially) routinely reaches 200K and more without failure.

I think the 3.6L is fine for a stock truck being used like 'most' users use them. Mine gets around fine empty, it pulls my modestly loaded utility trailer at 75MPH in 7th gear. Etc.

Big tires in the mountains? Nah.

Big trailers anywhere near the rated max capacity? Nahh.

I do agree - I'd like to see more power in the truck to be more on point with the rest of the segment.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

When will people understand turbo 4 cylinders and v6s have to rev to the moon won't last long as something that gets in it's torque band starting in the low rpms. All my V8 cars including 94 impala ss, and Pontiac g8 all get into the torque at a much lower rpm than the 3.6. The 3.6 needs 4400 rpms to get to 260 ft lbs, and just two hundred below red line to get to max hp. Maybe they can at least put the 3.0 Hurricane into the Gladiator. I do not care what they put in it, but the current 3.6 is not powerful enough for the gladiator. I am mind blown by people who put lifts with big tires on the gladiator. They must gear them to the moon.

You'd be shocked, then, at the numbers running larger tires with only mild gear changes or no change at all.

 

[WilldWilly]

You are correct. The 2.7 is a great engine. Making max torque of 430 from 1500 to 4000 where it is needed. I have owned two Silverados with that engine. But the 3.6 does not make max torque til 4400. Maybe they can throw some turbos on the 3.6.

 

[WilldWilly]

You'd be shocked, then, at the numbers running larger tires with only mild gear changes or no change at all.

Well, it won't get out of it's own way now. I have to hammer it every day to get out of my driveway. My v8 cars get there without so many rpms. I can't see this engine lasting as long as a v8 that does not have to work as hard to do the same thing.

 

[ChrisNLA]

Well, it won't get out of it's own way now. I have to hammer it every day to get out of my driveway. My v8 cars get there without so many rpms. I can't see this engine lasting as long as a v8 that does not have to work as hard to do the same thing.

How hard are you running it now?

If I need fairly brisk acceleration I may twist mine to 4,000 RPM. That's not much work for a small CI engine. Anything more than that and it's because I'm just flat out pulling out in front of someone and need to get hasty.

My L99 sees 3,000 RPM regularly - cause LS rumbles. LOL.

The playdough cam in these things are gonna kill it long before RPM ever will.

 

[Stan H]

Well, it won't get out of it's own way now. I have to hammer it every day to get out of my driveway. My v8 cars get there without so many rpms. I can't see this engine lasting as long as a v8 that does not have to work as hard to do the same thing.

@Wildwilly I live in a state where train engines are tested . Why because we only top out at 4,800 but the inclines to get there are massive . 11°plus. Many of the smaller hills here run 19-25° the site Im on now was 19° . I am lifted and on meger 35's and I think it does great. Maybe something is wrong with yours.
Or your thinking it should shoot up any grade at 50mph .

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