392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[cc1999]

Yeah...16v pushrod engines are small compared to monster DOHC engines like Ford's V8s.

Look at the 5.2L supercharged GT500 engine.

Yea that Ford DOHC design has a huge footprint.

That is actually why I am currently working with some companies attempting to get the Pushrod Godzilla 7.3L V8 swapped into one of my Range Raptors.

I agree with others with any of these engine swaps or conversions, that I have been seeing them referred to as of late. The fuel mileage is really not factor or shouldn't be.

I don't think there is Re-power or conversion in the world that ever works out on paper to ever have a payback, no matter what the fuel economy is.

Most of these V8 swaps are in the $50K range.

IMO, it's all about the passion of the V8 and wanting it bad enough to go to that sort of extent to make it happen.

When comparing the DOHC and pushrod v8s from a pure sound perspective, I think the pushrod V8s sound better then the DOHC, either way I think any V8 will always sound better then a V6.

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[Jrgunn5150]

You'll have a body on frame GMC Jimmy revival before these make believe V8 Gladiators

 

[ecidiego]

Most of these V8 swaps are in the $50K range.

Cracks me up. There is absolutely nowhere near the parts and well paid labor to add up to that total yet they still charge it and people still pay it

 

[AmosMoses]

Cracks me up. There is absolutely nowhere near the parts and well paid labor to add up to that total yet they still charge it and people still pay it

I paid over $900 for a 15 minute ultrasound, which is 1940's technology and people pay for that kind of product everyday.

 

[S JEEPN]

Cracks me up. There is absolutely nowhere near the parts and well paid labor to add up to that total yet they still charge it and people still pay it

It would be interesting to see what those business profit after the cost of parts design, manufacturing cost in house or purchased and shipped to them, loaded labor costs to do the installs, training employees, parts and material handling, Building costs, tools, misc. fluids, supplies, insurance, licenses, liability coverage and whatever i left out sure there is some additional.

 

[ecidiego]

It would be interesting to see what those business profit after the cost of parts design, manufacturing cost in house or purchased and shipped to them, loaded labor costs to do the installs, training employees, parts and material handling, Building costs, tools, misc. fluids, supplies, insurance, licenses, liability coverage and whatever i left out sure there is some additional.

Parts design? Wrangler has a 392. Jeep did all the work. Other than a longer driveshaft and minor ancillary things.. what 'new parts' are needed?

 

[S JEEPN]

I do not know where they end up financially doing swaps at $30k or $50k they would not do it without making a profit so my question is how much return on their investment.
I always look back at estimating construction work, loaded labor was about $1k a day so a two week project with two guys was already at $20k. I was often told by people they could do it cheaper themselves that makes sense they do not need to make a profit or have the overhead they also lack the experience of those who do something all the time.
If all the 392 parts would swap over and i had a 392 wrangler and a gladiator with a gas engine park them side by side and just swap everything over from the 392 to the Gladiator it would be a cool project except the cost of the wrangler would make it prohibitively expensive and all the parts would be used parts maybe if you got a great price on similar year wrecked ones that had all the components needed undamaged or could buy a kit and crate engine for a reasonable cost it would be just labor, hopefully skilled labor and the space to do it. Without a 392 wrangler donor you would buy all the components from the 392 that you need and have the custom stuff either made or make them in house like driveshafts, exhausts, brackets, harness adaptors whatever what would you spend and how much time would it take to source it all and how much storage space and how much tech space and how many tech hours to do each one and again what is the profit would it be enough to keep me in business and provide enough return on the investment or would i be better off reselling cheap parts or doing dropship sales.

 

[gonemad]

While Rubitrux advertises they’ll do a 6.4 swap for $40k and a 5.7 for $35k, if you look at the 392’s for sale on their lot, whether Wrangler 392s that came from Jeep, or their own JT hemi swaps, they load them up with all manner of added off-road gear driving the listed price up to $120k, plus or minus, so they are picking up the sale and install of all those extra options along the way. I guess they figure if someone is willing to throw $40k additional scratch at these things, they’ll want the rest of the goodies.

 

[Hootbro]

You would think if there was an angle to cut costs and make up in quantity, people would go into that business but they never do.

 

[Supazuk]

the biggest hurdle to the DIY swap is the ECU programing. It can be unlocked but as of right now the Jeep V8 programing is a trade secret

 

[DylanM]

You would think if there was an angle to cut costs and make up in quantity, people would go into that business but they never do.

The reason would be why go that route when they're able to get the same income doing less overall volume of work? They charge what a sufficient number of people are willing to pay that nets them their desired income without having to take on a production schedule that's too hectic or demanding.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Side jobs, extra curriculure work... If I don't see a immediate, clear path to double my money, I'm not even starting down the rabbit hole to do it.

But it's a free country, get out there and show us how cheap and easy it can be.

 

[Hootbro]

The reason would be why go that route when they're able to get the same income doing less overall volume of work? They charge what a sufficient number of people are willing to pay that nets them their desired income without having to take on a production schedule that's too hectic or demanding.

I do not disagree with any of that.

My comment was more of a poke at some of the people here that seem to think something should not cost what people are asking. Easy to bitch about what something costs, another thing to actually put up and prove it can be done and offered cheaper.

 

[ecidiego]

I do not disagree with any of that.

My comment was more of a poke at some of the people here that seem to think something should not cost what people are asking. Easy to bitch about what something costs, another thing to actually put up and prove it can be done and offered cheaper.

come on dude.....$50k to put a $15k engine/trans in a truck? It's 2 days of work for 2 guys. We all know it.

 

[RougeShot12er]

come on dude.....$50k to put a $15k engine/trans in a truck? It's 2 days of work for 2 guys. We all know it.

You should start a business doing it for 40k. Sounds like you have it figured out and it should be easy money for you.

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