Gladiator, bigfoot, lochness monster

[Lou3.6]

https://banned-site/2020-jeep-gladiator-dealer-order-dates-revealed/

? [Banned Site]

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[Jeepers!]

Hah - nice link. Guess we have banned sites here too, eh?

Ha! Didn't even notice. Ah well.

? banned-site

The site you mentioned is apparently banned here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Lou3.6]

? banned-site

Well that sucks PM me and lets see if that works . . . I'll be looking for any PM's in the next 30 minutes then I gotta go .

but here is a HINT since apparently they can't be mentioned . . . think FCA's after market brand Name do a general search for THEM . . . that will be the "insiders" scoop ("...") is the other hint !

 

[Lou3.6]

Ha! Didn't even notice. Ah well.

The site you mentioned is apparently banned here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is MOPAR also banned ? No, good well then do a general search for MOPAR and Look around !

 

[Lou3.6]

Hah - nice link. Guess we have banned sites here too, eh?

SCREW THE LINK JUST TYPE IT IN YOURSELF AFTER BACKING OUT OF HERE !

 

[drogers]

Well that sucks PM me and lets see if that works . . . I'll be looking for any PM's in the next 30 minutes then I gotta go .

but here is a HINT since apparently they can't be mentioned . . . think FCA's after market brand Name do a general search for THEM . . . that will be the "insiders" scoop ("...") is the other hint !

Ahh, so if I were to describe a group of people from inside mopar, I might call them by this name...

 

[5JeepsAz]

Evidence that this reveal is not correct?

Because three people on this forum, apparently potential JT buyers, have purchased other brands!

Where has the reveal gone wrong?

Well folks. Let's see. We first heard of the JT in 2005.

Then we heard for over a decade that it was coming.

Now we have seen JT on video and in pictures from real people for over a year.

Where has the reveal gone wrong? I ask what kind of people hide a product under camo? Like another manufacturer can market a fold down windshield, removable roof? What!? lol. Who are we kidding? Jeep should have driven neon mules. They did not.

Because this is our top flight corporate culture. Plastic people do not know themselves, their consumer, or their product. Plywood notch? Really?!? LMFAO.

You young folks do your learning here. All the data in the world is worthless if you haven't a soul and a good team. Nobody is running corporations. Computers are. And it ain't right. Serious.

The rollout is not a conscious decision folks, it's the end result of a bunch of people watching computer simulated rollouts from unintegrated departmental fractals.

There is no there there.

Just give me my JT and I'll go back to the hills and leave it alone. Promise!

 

[Dryfly24]

Evidence that this reveal is not correct?

Because three people on this forum, apparently potential JT buyers, have purchased other brands!

Where has the reveal gone wrong?

Well folks. Let's see. We first heard of the JT in 2005.

Then we heard for over a decade that it was coming.

Now we have seen JT on video and in pictures from real people for over a year.

Where has the reveal gone wrong? I ask what kind of people hide a product under camo? Like another manufacturer can market a fold down windshield, removable roof? What!? lol. Who are we kidding? Jeep should have driven neon mules. They did not.

Because this is our top flight corporate culture. Plastic people do not know themselves, their consumer, or their product. Plywood notch? Really?!? LMFAO.

You young folks do your learning here. All the data in the world is worthless if you haven't a soul and a good team. Nobody is running corporations. Computers are. And it ain't right. Serious.

The rollout is not a conscious decision folks, it's the end result of a bunch of souless jerks watching computer simulated rollouts from unintegrated departmental fractals.

There is no there there.

Just give me my JT and I'll go back to the hills and leave it alone. Promise!

You bring up a good point. Reveals are supposed to build up excitement and encourage interest. Not piss off your customers so much that they jump ship to another brand.

You might really be onto something that the people who come up with all this failed marketing BS aren’t people at all. Computers and formulas run these soulless corporations. Maybe that’s why they’re so out of touch with their customer base...

 

[5JeepsAz]

You bring up a good point. Reveals are supposed to build up excitement and encourage interest. Not piss off your customers so much that they jump ship to another brand.

You might really be onto something that the people who come up with all this failed marketing BS aren’t people at all. Computers and formulas run these soulless corporations. Maybe that’s why they’re so out of touch with their customer base...

If I find a resto I'm gone too. I don't want to be a burnout, another disgruntled consumer. But seriously, this whole two decades is proof for me. I was for the few who go out and see jeep people in the wild, knowing their customers. I was for the few who kept the fire burning in unimaginably competitive conditions against other models, priorities. And who knows how many survived to see JT 2020 all the way to fruition. I was impressed. They got it done! Then, you know what happens? This rollout!!! Talk about a cluster. I just can't find it in my heart to blame anyone. Not one person more than another. And it is not different than history. The difference is now we rely on projections informed by better data and surer predictive ability, so we get to cluster faster and worse. Lol.

 

[Jeepers!]

What's the issue with this particular launch? How is it different than any other? I get that there's been pent-up demand for this (from me included) for over a decade. But we never really knew it existed until they started driving around less than a year ago. But the driving around in camo happens for any vehicle that secretly goes from concept to production. FWIW, this'll be faster from unveiling to sitting on dealer lots than my last four vehicles.

 

[5JeepsAz]

What's the issue with this particular launch? How is it different than any other? I get that there's been pent-up demand for this (from me included) for over a decade. But we never really knew it existed until they started driving around less than a year ago. But the driving around in camo happens for any vehicle that secretly goes from concept to production. FWIW, this'll be faster from unveiling to sitting on dealer lots than my last four vehicles.

“Many a small thing has been made large by the right kind of advertising.”- MARK TWAIN

Just give me a JT price and some plywood so I can get on with my life!

 

[Joe333x]

Next poll should be is anyone who drives a minivan a terrible driver and shouldn't have a truck anyway. Or who are worse drivers, minivans or prius owners.

 

[smlobx]

Drogers had made a comment in another thread about the jt having a higher payload then my Pacifica......

I’m sorry but anyone who drives a minivan doesn’t have any automotive cred with me....;-)

 

[jeepguy225]

I’m sorry but anyone who drives a minivan doesn’t have any automotive cred with me....;-)

and includes a honda ridgeline in a discussion about trucks

 

[steffen707]

Yeah something is seriously off about this "gladiator" I'm wondering if perhaps Mark Allen and Brandon Grimish misspoke about it coming out next quarter. Someone pointed out it is a 2020 model. Perhaps JEEP brand has not bothered correcting the mis speaks by these guys? It would explain lack of pricing lack of production, and overall lack of information on the jt. And we should probably expect them to hit dealer lots late fall to spring of 2020?

They're probably releasing a 2020, because if they released it and called it a 2019, then what would they change for the 2020, that typically comes out before the end of 2019? They don't have new ideas, those are allready going into the debut 2020 model.

lol, are some of you actually "worried" there is something wrong with the jeep or production already? Give them a chance.

The flipside, is they don't show it, or talk about it at all, and then BAM, release pricing, ordering, photos and test drive reviews all at once? Then people would be bitching that they should have slowly released info to get people excited about it.

CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO. I bet its going to be awesome.

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