Automatic braking with nothing in front of me.

[danielspivey]

You’re actually wrong and I didn’t miss your point. If you drive under the speed limit in the fast lane, not only are you annoying and unsafe, you are in fact a dork. There’s no defense for speeding and holding up people who want to go the speed limit.

Let me reemphasize... speed LIMIT. There are many small towns that will pull you over for 2 mph over the limit. There a small city here in va where the I95 speed limit drops from 70 to 55 in the city limits. They pull people over all day long with out of state plates.

Under the speed limit is legally what you are supposed to be doing by the law. You need to get your drivers Ed books out budro. Please read those books.

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[danielspivey]

Most unsafe situations start with a driver who is oblivious to the speed limit and people who road rage behind them. Both are at fault.

“Says the road rager......”

If you run into someone, from behind, it’s your fault bottom line. There are many streets and roads where people pull out welllll under the speed limit.

With your theory someone could be driving in a 65 mph zone and the person behind them has the right to run into them for going 64? But what if they have someone in front of them going slow. Are you THAT guy who rides people who are stuck behind someone going slow in front of them? I bet you are

 

[danielspivey]

BTW automated controls are nannies... you may prefer them but I prefer to use my own driving skills

I actually agree, which is why opted not to get it on my gladiator. However, if the gladiator was my daily driver and I drop as far as I do for my daily commute, I could see the appeal.

 

[Rocksalt]

I actually agree, which is why opted not to get it on my gladiator. However, if the gladiator was my daily driver and I drop as far as I do for my daily commute, I could see the appeal.

well mine is my only vehicle hence DD... I still prefer to call my own shots on the road.

 

[TheSolarWizard]

True, but what the reality is Tesla is attempting to modify existing technology (cruise, lane change, ACC etc) to achieve the autonomous result. This won’t work.
The successful implementation of autonomous will come from software developed totally dedicated to that end and Tesla is attempting the cheap route, that’s why I say they will fail - imo.
I would bet beers that they will not be the first to have an approved autonomous system, if they ever have one following the current path.

That’s no how a Tesla works. I’ve owned two of them. The self driving piece is additional hardware and about 14M lines of coda coupled to 12-14 cameras depending on the model.

Overall the cars are overrated and customer service is non existent but I’ve crossed Arizona and New Mexico by only touching the volume button periodically to tell it I’m touching the wheel. Never any pedals, lane changes, signaling or route alteration by me. All by the car. It sees pedestrians, garbage cans, road signs, bikes, deer, dogs etc

 

[Gladman]

OK, I stand corrected. But my information came from another developer of this software for an independent company that has no ties to any automotive group. Once perfected it will be for sale to any number of companies. That company sees full autonomous driving of any kind being at least 6 years out.

 

[Tuggernuts]

Yes, but cruise control will plow you into the back of the car that suddenly slows down in front of you, where ACC will slow or stop to avoid it. In Nevada, you are automatically at fault if you run into the back of another car, regardless of why.

“Says the road rager......”

If you run into someone, from behind, it’s your fault bottom line. There are many streets and roads where people pull out welllll under the speed limit.

With your theory someone could be driving in a 65 mph zone and the person behind them has the right to run into them for going 64? But what if they have someone in front of them going slow. Are you THAT guy who rides people who are stuck behind someone going slow in front of them? I bet you are

Are you seriously arguing over the merits of driving under the speed limit? Dude, enjoy your gladiator and this forum with all of its info and such. Otherwise take your pointless arguments somewhere else. If you're on the interstate IN THE FAST LANE driving ten mph under the limit you are a dork, dork.

 

[Tuggernuts]

Let me reemphasize... speed LIMIT. There are many small towns that will pull you over for 2 mph over the limit. There a small city here in va where the I95 speed limit drops from 70 to 55 in the city limits. They pull people over all day long with out of state plates.

Under the speed limit is legally what you are supposed to be doing by the law. You need to get your drivers Ed books out budro. Please read those books.

You are not required by law to drive under the posted limit. That is just stupid. You are simply not supposed to exceed that limit. Technically you are supposed to drive a speed that conditions allow while not exceeding the posted limit. You know this of course but that would limit your trolling ability to admit that.

 

[danielspivey]

You are not required by law to drive under the posted limit. That is just stupid. You are simply not supposed to exceed that limit. Technically you are supposed to drive a speed that conditions allow while not exceeding the posted limit. You know this of course but that would limit your trolling ability to admit that.

You stated “ If you are the dork that drives under the speed limit in the fast lane, well I got nothing for you.” and then “ You are simply not supposed to exceed that limit”.

So either you are contradicting yourself or truly believe that everyone, at all times, should drive the speed that is posted on the sign. Either way, your being illogical.

 

[Tuggernuts]

You stated “ If you are the dork that drives under the speed limit in the fast lane, well I got nothing for you.” and then “ You are simply not supposed to exceed that limit”.

So either you are contradicting yourself or truly believe that everyone, at all times, should drive the speed that is posted on the sign. Either way, your being illogical.

I'm 100% saying that everyone should drive the posted speed, especially in the fast lane. Do you drive under the posted speed in the fast lane?

 

[danielspivey]

I'm 100% saying that everyone should drive the posted speed, especially in the fast lane. Do you drive under the posted speed in the fast lane?

Are implying that everyone should drive over the speed limit, or drive exactly the speed limit? I’m still not clear on your stance.

No, I typically break the law and drive about 6-7 mph over the speed limit because of road ragers out there that get so upset about people driving the speed limit, or under it, legally.

When a road rager gets on my butt, I let them pass or get over, and laugh when they get a ticket going 20 over, When someone is going below the speed limit, I don’t get upset, I maintain a safe distance until I can go around around them. What do you do exactly? Are you one of those road ragers or do you go exactly the speed limit all the time?

My point is you can’t get upset for those following the law as it’s designed. Seems you still don’t understand that.

 

[Tuggernuts]

Are implying that everyone should drive over the speed limit, or drive exactly the speed limit? I’m still not clear on your stance.

No, I typically break the law and drive about 6-7 mph over the speed limit because of road ragers out there that get so upset about people driving the speed limit, or under it, legally.

When a road rager gets on my butt, I let them pass or get over, and laugh when they get a ticket going 20 over, When someone is going below the speed limit, I don’t get upset, I maintain a safe distance until I can go around around them. What do you do exactly? Are you one of those road ragers or do you go exactly the speed limit all the time?

My point is you can’t get upset for those following the law as it’s designed. Seems you still don’t understand that.

I'm definitely not a road rager. I have a commercial liscense so I definitely do not speed. I do go the posted limit though and I think people who don't are dorks. Look, we're back at square one. You seem like a guy who always needs to have the last word so go ahead. I'm done.

 

[Wbrook24]

They have started pulling people over for impeding the flow of traffic in my area. If you are sitting in the fast lane at 5 under with a line of cars behind you there is a good chance you will get pulled over. Once EVERYTHING gets automated roads will change. Until that likely distant time who knows. Speed limits are limits but if you try and drive the speed limit in a fast lane around where I'm at it will not be fun.
On another note I haven't had my auto braking kick on again even in the same spot. Don't know what exactly caused it but will update if it happens again.

 

[Weasel Caesar]

If you are driving on the highway in the left lane (i.e. the fast lane) and you are driving slower than the posted speed limit and I have to pass you on the right, you are a DORK, and I, my wife, my kids and anyone else in my car is making fun of you and the mama that raised you. GTFO OF THE LEFT LANE!

If you see a car coming up fast behind you, move the hell over.

Obviously, conditions apply. Heavy/rush hour traffic, bad weather, etc. But long miles on the interstate? GET OUT THE WAY! You are not only being annoying, you're being unsafe. Impeding traffic is a ticketable offense and it's wild that some here don't understand that.

Put me in the category that wants as little techno-nanny interference as possible. Advanced safety group was a deal-breaker for me and caused me to pass on a lot of local offers. Ended up finding a punk'n Rubicorn* 200 miles away that had everything I wanted, and two things I didn't-- body color flares and the safety group (basic, not advanced). Both features have grown on me- I don't mind it beeping when there's cross-traffic and it's saved me from embarassment a few times in busy parking lots, if not an actual accident. But activating the brakes without my expressly putting my boot down on the actual f#%*ing brake pedal?! That's a big hell no for me and I'm glad I don't have it. The ACC is not enough of a convenience for me to want that crap jamming up on me over a damn shadow or a long line on an adjacent exit pass. That nanny can take her umbrella and fly.

*intentional misspelling ?

 

[danielspivey]

They have started pulling people over for impeding the flow of traffic in my area. If you are sitting in the fast lane at 5 under with a line of cars behind you there is a good chance you will get pulled over. Once EVERYTHING gets automated roads will change. Until that likely distant time who knows. Speed limits are limits but if you try and drive the speed limit in a fast lane around where I'm at it will not be fun.
On another note I haven't had my auto braking kick on again even in the same spot. Don't know what exactly caused it but will update if it happens again.

The “impeding” laws are only for cases where they are blocking an ambulance, fire truck or police officer. Another circumstance would be for not going a posted minimum speed speed limit, but these signs are rarely posted, except for places like mountain pass inclines.

If one were to get pulled over in the left lane that had a 65 mph speed limit for going 60, it would be thrown out immediately in court.

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