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Which Lift kit? Clayton vs Rock Krawler vs Evo

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I have the overland trim currently running 35s with spacers. Eventually I want to run 37s so I would like this suspension to handle them. Trying to stay under 2k without shocks.

Use case by priority:
1. This is a daily driver and needs to be comfortable on road and stable on highway
2. I overland this rig frequently, so it need to handle the large payload in the back
3. Medium off-roading with weight in back and light/minimal rock crawling. Last thing I want is to get stuck or break something deep into a trail. Even though this will primarily be driven on pavement and service road, I want it to be fully capable in trails.

I'm torn between these 3:

3.5 Clayton Overland Plus - I like this one because its a good value, it includes all 8 arms and both track bars. Its a few hundred over my budget. I just don't think I'll need all of this for my use cases. They also offer a ride height kit, which is essentially the same but does not include front lowers, rear uppers, or rear lowers. But, I could buy any of those separately with the kit.

Rock Krawler 3IN Max Travel - This one is interesting because it uses triple rate springs in the front and rear, where the clayton has triple rates in the rear only. I don't know if this provides any on-road/off-road benefit. It may handle additional weight better in front, such as a steel front bumper and winch. This kit includes front lowers and rear uppers. This I hear is a good combo and the primary ones needed to adjust caster and pinion angles. If that's the case, are the other set of control arms needed and what are there benefits? This doesn't include rear track, but rather a correction bracket (not a big issue).

Evo 2.5IN Stage 2 Enforcer Overland Plus - This is a little bit shorter of a lift, which is fine, I just want to make sure it clears 37s with the overland trim. I like that it includes a control arm drop bracket for better angles. Supposedly it will improve ride quality. I dont like the fact it is using dual rate springs in the back. This stage will only include the front lowers, but with such a small lift, that should only be required, but could be wrong there. I could go stage 3 for the rear uppers, but its getting pricy.

Most important thing to me is reliability. I don't want to run into issues down the road because I missed something. 37s will require additional upgrades, but I am just focusing on suspension right now. What are your opinions? Other suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
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Clayton for the win.
 

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Clayton. But 3.5 is actually about 4 inches. You’ll need shocks. You’ll need a front driveshaft. You’ll need 37’s. You’ll need a beefier steering stabilizer for the 37’s. You’ll want gears as soon as you put the 37’s on.

Arguably $2k is not realistic for this route unless you deal with some compromises as you build.
 

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Being that Clayton specifically sizes their springs/spring rates for being weighted, I'd go with them. Maybe go ride right and just add the rear upper arms to start if that's easier on your budget. Their arms are not very differently priced buying all at once vs buying them separate so you could always add the other arms later for a more complete setup.
 

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I went with the 2.5" Clayton Overland plus mostly based on feedback from this forum. They seem to be the best for the money in every regard. I plan on installing everything in a few days. I'm already running 37's and have 4.88's sitting on my garage shelf waiting to go in. What shocks are you planning on running?
 

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I went with the 2.5" Clayton Overland plus mostly based on feedback from this forum. They seem to be the best for the money in every regard. I plan on installing everything in a few days. I'm already running 37's and have 4.88's sitting on my garage shelf waiting to go in. What shocks are you planning on running?
Nice, looks like clayton is the favorite. Going with fox 2.0
 
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Being that Clayton specifically sizes their springs/spring rates for being weighted, I'd go with them. Maybe go ride right and just add the rear upper arms to start if that's easier on your budget. Their arms are not very differently priced buying all at once vs buying them separate so you could always add the other arms later for a more complete setup.
I might do that. It seems there ride height lift comes with front uppers. Typically you would see front lowers as a stage 1 option. I wonder why?
 

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Honestly I would be going with Metalcloak over all of them.

I would take RK out of the picture as they are currently having issues with bushings in their lifts. Even the replacement ones have began to fail for someone here a month after installing them.

I went with RK Pro X, and it was great until 3 months ago. Now it squeaks like crazy. Waiting on replacement bushings. If those fail on me im going right back to MC. This is what I get for straying from MC in the first place.
 

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Honestly I would be going with Metalcloak over all of them.

I would take RK out of the picture as they are currently having issues with bushings in their lifts. Even the replacement ones have began to fail for someone here a month after installing them.
Why Metalcloak? I know they make good stuff, just wondering what puts them at the top for you?
 

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Why Metalcloak? I know they make good stuff, just wondering what puts them at the top for you?
I have never been on a lifted Jeep that has ridden so quietly suspension wise, or as great as an MC lift.

The zinc coating they use stops rusting, which is great when you're in the salt belt like me. Have YET to see any other companies components last more than 4 winters without rust by me. With 2 jeeps, one having MC for 7 the other for 5, showing no rust while I abuse them, is unreal. Same goes for everyone around me that has MC.

When I have fucked something up offroad, like snapping my swaybar links because I didn't connect them properly once disconnected, they overnighted me a new pair no questions asked. When one of my friends rolled their jeep and snapped one control arm, they overnighted him all new front arms, no questions asked.

The joints being maintenance free is a godsend.

SO many more positive experiences I can't begin to go into. That team is fantastic and stands behind their product better than any company in the industry I personally have dealt with.

I have NOT had experience with Clayton but I have been hearing nothing but good things about them. It is just difficult to not go with the tried and true. Yet I succumbed to the triangulated 4 link by RK lol.
 

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I went with the 2.5" Clayton Overland plus mostly based on feedback from this forum. They seem to be the best for the money in every regard. I plan on installing everything in a few days. I'm already running 37's and have 4.88's sitting on my garage shelf waiting to go in. What shocks are you planning on running?
Got pics? I'm debating on 2.5 or a 3.5
 
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I have never been on a lifted Jeep that has ridden so quietly suspension wise, or as great as an MC lift.

The zinc coating they use stops rusting, which is great when you're in the salt belt like me. Have YET to see any other companies components last more than 4 winters without rust by me. With 2 jeeps, one having MC for 7 the other for 5, showing no rust while I abuse them, is unreal. Same goes for everyone around me that has MC.

When I have fucked something up offroad, like snapping my swaybar links because I didn't connect them properly once disconnected, they overnighted me a new pair no questions asked. When one of my friends rolled their jeep and snapped one control arm, they overnighted him all new front arms, no questions asked.

The joints being maintenance free is a godsend.

SO many more positive experiences I can't begin to go into. That team is fantastic and stands behind their product better than any company in the industry I personally have dealt with.

I have NOT had experience with Clayton but I have been hearing nothing but good things about them. It is just difficult to not go with the tried and true. Yet I succumbed to the triangulated 4 link by RK lol.
That's really good to hear, thanks for the info. I have not looked seriously into metalcloak, I'll have to take a look!
 

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I might do that. It seems there ride height lift comes with front uppers. Typically you would see front lowers as a stage 1 option. I wonder why?
Clayton has said here on the forum that it is because you get a greater caster adjustment from small changes of the uppers compared to the lowers.
 

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That's really good to hear, thanks for the info. I have not looked seriously into metalcloak, I'll have to take a look!
They are more than likely more expensive than the others. But the quality, satisfaction, CS and peace of mind that I will never be fucked waiting for parts for long is well worth it.

Man...maybe I should just go ahead and get new MC arms LOL
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