Jeep ceo…. Wants zero emission freedom brand

[WILDHOBO]

Electric vehicles tested only lost about 12 percent of range in the cold while running with their heaters switched off, compared to 41 percent with the climate control

I’ve driven EVs in severe winters. 41% of loss when using climate control is off the charts high. Pre starting the vehicle when still plugged in also solves that almost entirely. The cabin temp is achieved up or down, heat or A/C, with the power from the charger, not the batteries. That way, when you unplug to leave, the most energy spent to get to cabin set temp is already done, and didn’t negatively affect your range. I can with experience say that 15% range loss in the winter is a very good estimate. In summer temps, you should do better than the advertised range by about the same. Again, I’m not guessing. I’ve experienced this on multiple makes/models.

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[Orange01z28]

???

 

[Gladman]

I am relaxed about the whole EV taking over concept. Won’t happen. There is not enough power capacity/infrastructure to accommodate everyone driving electric. And, to be clear, no one has committed billions to upgrade as we speak.
California has a relatively small % of vehicles on the road that are electric. Yet recently some legislation passed in some areas to limit charging of EV’s to between late evening and morning due to lack of power capacity. And in 8 years we will all be driving EV’s? No.

 

[Orange01z28]

Good luck going wheeling

 

[doc-ketamine]

Good luck going wheeling

LOL the 4xE is more capable off-road than the other lines.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Good luck going wheeling

Check out the rivian videos. Pretty impressive.

 

[HighNoon]

So if people are driving electric vehicles say they have to evacuate for a wildfire or hurricane, or what ever happens. The traffic piles up and now people are out of electric charge. I have seen the interstate almost stopped for hurricanes and stations running out of gas but somehow people made it. I don’t think there is any way in the near future electric would handle a massive need like that. People can’t get stranded.

 

[COmtnbiker]

My 2022 3.6 JT has been with me for less than 1 week. I already "told it" the next owner receives it when my 2025 full electric JT arrives. [as long as it has a heat pump]

 

[ArmyMP]

Fix the charging issues. Time to charge, amount of infrastructure, make the batteries better.....
While I'm at it.....Give me a solar panel for my hood that charges my jeep in the back country. Put electric motors on my overland trailer so it reduces the amount of drain on my battery....Let it drive itself.
I agree. It's the future. Motors on all corners and all that off roading goodness. Still want to see someone lift a Rivan and do the standard off roader mods.


I get it. Some people have to be early adopters to test the tech and make it fiscally viable.

But I watched @Summitdan have his issues. I'd love an EV mode to get to work my commute is stupid short and prevents a diesel. I'd never get it to it's duty cycle. But cold days? Right now it would not be functional.

Cascadia makes one

 

[WILDHOBO]

So if people are driving electric vehicles say they have to evacuate for a wildfire or hurricane, or what ever happens. The traffic piles up and now people are out of electric charge. I have seen the interstate almost stopped for hurricanes and stations running out of gas but somehow people made it. I don’t think there is any way in the near future electric would handle a massive need like that. People can’t get stranded.

Wow. I actually like your comment, because it’s hilarious. Good Plug-in hybrids, even when battery charge is exhausted, get 40-50mpg, AFTER the batteries are out of charge. So those people in the evacuation line won’t need gas stations nearly as often, and will contribute to others who need it more. Anyone, more efficient evacuation? I having lived in Florida for 20 years would have appreciated it. My extended range electric needed a gas fill up about ever 6 weeks, and I had an unlimited range after batteries were depleted.

 

[HighNoon]

Wow. I actually like your comment, because it’s hilarious. Good Plug-in hybrids, even when battery charge is exhausted, get 40-50mpg, AFTER the batteries are out of charge. So those people in the evacuation line won’t need gas stations nearly as often, and will contribute to others who need it more. Anyone, more efficient evacuation? I having lived in Florida for 20 years would have appreciated it. My extended range electric needed a gas fill up about ever 6 weeks, and I had an unlimited range after batteries were depleted.

I am talking all electric. I thought the article said Jeep was going total electric in a few years. I am not talking hybrid.

 

[HighNoon]

And the first [all electric] Jeep will be launched at the end of next year.

 

[stil2low]

Actually, it'll be a banner day for improving the environment.

Humans cannot go on forever doing whatever they want that pollutes the water, air & soil, destroys animal habitats like forests, deserts, natural areas. There is simply a finite amount of these three and the faster we use them and/or pollute them which BOTH eventually destroys them then there is less for ourselves and a shorter future for us all.

Yeah, you can call me names, i.e. tree hugger, etc. Name calling is the last refuge of those who have no cogent argument. It's simply fact that things have change DRAMATICALLY in just my short 67 years of life so I can imagine what it would seem to someone who might have been around 100 or 200 years ago. They wouldn't recognize the world's condition. And 100 or 200 years is a microsecond of history.

As an operator on one of our coke batteries, we have to be knowledgeable in environmental control. The steel industry is changing, gone will be the fully integrated mills like oursand replaced with mini mills using electric arc furnaces to melt scrap instead of a blast furnace melting raw materials into new iron. The shift to these mini mills look great under the whole new green movement because a EAF hardly emits CO reducing the “carbon footprint” but what they don’t tell you is the flue dust from an EAF is listed as hazardous material and at 70 million tonnes produced last year we still don’t have a proper effective way of disposing it. A mini mill also reduces man power significantly and can be shut down at any time unlike an integrated mill
We are in the process now of building two EAF’s here, but since we share the same electrical power grid and infrastructure as the US, we will only be able to run one at a time. But we will look great in the eye of the public because we cut our CO emissions and all power that fed to our location of the grid is solar, wind and hydro making us the “greenest” steel in North America. Just don’t mind the pile of barrels of flue dust haha

 

[Jaxmax]

I’m the Electrical Manger for a very large construction company with many quarries, asphalt plants, concrete plants and the list goes on up to about 98 companies. I have embraced solar power to power quarries have one very large one done and doing an asphalt plant first quarter of 22, amazing to see a large quarry running on the sun, but I have not embraced battery storage to allow morning and end of day power stored in batteries to complete the production loop. Battery technology has to get past where we are now, that is happening as of summer 2021 , solid state lithium battery technology is going to make EV cars practical sooner then I thought, fast charge to almost 100% in ten minutes, battery life of about 20 years or more, which is more then a chassis will last. Company owners want me to come up with a plan to get into EV charging, at our facilties, and also starting up a company setting up EV charger stations on interstates.
Electric will happen, but most people have no idea of electrical infrastructure required to charge millions of cars. Legislating change works but at a cost, California with their small engine ban coming up sounds great until you really look into practice usage and costs.
I love the sound of a gas engine even the 3.6 in my Mojave, but being an electrician by trade , I know electric will be able to deliver everything we need someday…..Jack

 

[Trickster]

So if people are driving electric vehicles say they have to evacuate for a wildfire or hurricane, or what ever happens. The traffic piles up and now people are out of electric charge. I have seen the interstate almost stopped for hurricanes and stations running out of gas but somehow people made it. I don’t think there is any way in the near future electric would handle a massive need like that. People can’t get stranded.

What?
Apparently you are not aware of EVs range currently and moving forward it will only increase. When traffic “piles” up is exactly when an EV excels. No movement, no loss of energy. If 4-500 kms of range is not enough to escape, then it won’t matter what your driving.

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