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Those were probably mannequins. They are models that the dealerships have to hold for x amount of months for test drives before they can sell them.

You're almost at the finish line...why start all over again? Yes, rail shipping is a cluster. Part of why I went with Gupton (they get trucked directly from Toledo)

In general I haven't found any CDJR's in Wisconsin that weren't marking up way over sticker or telling me MSRP or kick rocks. Same for Illinois and the surrounding states. Gupton, Auto Mall in Georgia and the one in Idaho are the only 3 that are really popular on here. Oh, and Tri City in NC.

Keep in mind it's only as accurate as the information people enter into it. It regularly trawls Stellantis' build sheet site for the data which you can get yourself by adding your VIN to the following urls Build Sheet: https://www.chrysler.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin= Window...

Walter is the F&I guy at Gupton. When I picked up my JT he did the sales paperwork as well as the usual warranty/add on sales pitch after Renee did her thing. I think he's been there awhile.

Between the time I ordered my 2021 in late July and when I picked it up at the end of October the price went up by a solid $1000 or so. Luckily Gupton has sold order protection so it didn't affect me at all but if price is a major concern I would buy now as these are only going to get more...

Woah...that's insane. Super happy I grabbed mine for $160 each back in November ?

Need to make an appointment, especially on the weekend. They are a small operation and get swamped easily. I would wait for Renee to contact you, she usually will reach out and set one up when the truck is ready.

Go with skinny 35s. I paid $165 per tire for Kenda Klever RT in 35/10.5/17. I actually prefer the look and they seem to do better in deep snow. There's a thread on here with people who are running this tire and the consensus is that they are a steal.

If your truck is being shipped by rail it can sit awhile. When mine was build in mid October it sat for around a week before it got on the truck to Gupton.

they will do trade ins but from what I hear they don't give people a very good price on their trade ins. I sold my truck elsewhere and had a beater car to drive around until the Jeep was delivered. I don't think Gupton would've given me anywhere near what I got for my old truck on...

The price jump is WILD....a 2 door base model JL with just a few options is darn close to what I paid for my 2021 JT a few months ago ?

Mine picked up at the end of October didn't have any.

lol arfcom...some good threads on there over the years. I'm not a regular since I'm a little young for their demographic.

Some of those you listed are 1 or 2 percent higher than Gupton but absolutely a good deal for anyone in their respective areas that don't want to make a cross country hike to Gupton. For me I went to Gupton since all the Jeep dealers around here are garbage. I think maybe half of the ones I...

FCA must be monkeying with the hauler rates again. THey did this in September and slashed the outbound hauler rates out of Toledo by a rumored 30% or more according to the chatter I saw on car hauler FB groups. This caused massive delays when the car hauler companies told them to kick rocks...

Lots of dealers don't have a clue when it comes to customer factory orders. I was outright told by a few local stores that they "don't do that" and that they "didn't have any allocations left" (both complete lies). But again, the dealer has incentive to screw up your factory order. They...

It's very common for sales staff to either have no idea what they're selling or they actively lie to the customer so they can get a factory order and get them to walk away when it's delivered and sell it to someone else at a huge markup. Seen this a lot in the Bronco world.....Jeep dealers...

It varies according to a dozen factors, many of which aren't common knowledge. In general loaded Rubicons and Mojaves get built first. I waited 3 months for a base Sport with very few options (July 27 order, October 28 pickup).

Mojaves always seem to get built first for some reason. Seems like wait times are under a month on those. Enjoy!