2 Dudes 1 wrench podcast - Mojave

[Bjeepz]

These guys are in my area. I've spoken to them in person. They seem more interested getting your cash overbuilding than doing sensible mods. Some people like them, but I'm definitely not a fan and don't do business with them.

My .02 cents and I'm nobody......I have a 2022 Mojave, AEV 2" spacer kit and GEO brackets, added BFG 35's, rides better than stock.

That's the front geometry correction! I noted a good improvement in highway feel from the Mopar 2 inch lift kit lower control arms on mine.

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[Sw00per]

Not sure why people say "if you are changing the suspension anyway, don't get a Mojave". If this were true, the same thing would be true for the Rubicon. I see way more Rubicon take off shocks and springs for sale (and a lot cheaper) than I do Mojave shocks.

When we say change the suspension that is to general of a statement. The suspension is more than shocks and springs.

There is a lot more you get than shocks and springs when you get a Mojave. Different frame, hydro bumpstops, 14mm front shock bolts, steel knuckles, steel steering box, Hood and Cowl, Highline fenders, different steering wheel, more bolstered seats, etc .. The shocks and springs are not what make the Mojave a Mojave. The Rubicon gets front locker, 4:1 gearbox, electronic sway bar connects, Highline fenders, interior difference similar to the Mojave.

Unless you are doing a full on high dollar build starting with a Sport will cost you a kot more, just the gear change is expensive. My Sport had 3.73 in them, 35s made it so so, if I keep it I would have changed to 4.10 or 4.56. My Mojave came with 4.10 and it is great with 4.10 and a Pedal Monster. I am going to go up to 37s and see how that is.

My point is the statement "if you are changing the suspension anyway, don't get a Mojave" is VERY misleading... You are paying for the other upgrades I listed not just the springs and shocks.

As far as no front locker and sway bar disconnects, that really will only be an advantage if you are a rock crawler, but if you are really not going to rock crawl it really doesn't matter.

The debate between Mojave and Rubicon is also pointless if you don't rock crawl. They are both great models. It is more the look for most people. Some like the Mojave hood some like the Rubicon hood, some like orange stitching and some like red ...

For someone not rock crawling but want to move to 35s or 37s they are better buying a Rubicon or Mojave. Just for the gears and Highline fenders...

Now lets talk resale value.... It is a lot more on a Mojave than a Sport.

I started with a sport because I thought it would be easy to upgrade the parts and be less expensive .. wow was I wrong. Steel Knuckle (I feel a must), are about $1100, highline fenders about $1800-$2000 for the body color matched ones, $400 for steering wheel, etc.... The shocks and springs were nothing compared to the other stuff I had planned to make my sport the way I wanted, most of which come on the Mojave stock.... Just my $0.02

You bring up some good points. I went with the Mojave based on some of the upgrades you mentioned along with what I would be using it for. The bonus for me are some of the cosmetic things i.e. interior color, seats, killer hood...

 

[dayusmc]

The main point is when you buy a Mojave the extra cost is for a LOT more than the shocks and springs. If you were just paying for the shocks and Springs noone would pay 17k more for the Mojave.

My 2020 Sport, loaded except no front cam or headed seats, sticker 45k
My 2020 Mojave loaded to include front can and everything else 65k

So saying why buy the Mojave if you are just going to take off the shocks and springs and that is what you are paying the extra money for give the impression that those shocks and Springs are 17k. Noone would pay an extra 17k for like 3k of shocks and springs...

 

[salvino]

I stumbled onto this new podcast today on YouTube. It was their first show. ( 2 dudes and a wrench).
If you’re a Mojave owner you might find it interesting. Talked about shocks, lifts, and winch install to name a few.
I’ve also watched their channel and followed some of the build that they did to their Mojave.
Sorry no link, but I’m sure you can easily search for it

I've had them work on my JTR Launch Edition. Awesome work and very fun to watch their stuff. The Ginger is a classic mechanic/comedian. Paul’s a great straight man as well. But the Ginger is wrong about the 3.6 liter engine.

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