$4000 budget for lift and rims and tires.

[Clayton Off Road]

I appreciate your response. Nothing was "just misunderstood". Myself and a group of buddies were discussing upgrades, and we read this on your product page:

"for anyone looking to fit a larger set of wheels and tires, maintain ride quality with proper suspension geometry, and that primarily plans on keeping the vehicle on the pavement rather than on the trail."

We took it at face value- I don't read a manual that says "don't go faster than 3 mph when putting your vehicle into 4L" and then go and try to drop it into 4L at highway speeds. I just take the manufacturers word for it. That isn't a "misunderstanding", it's reading words that mean something.

Respectfully, assuming that someone misunderstood a very clearly worded and salient use-case description is sort of insulting. Granted, it's a Wednesday morning and by Friday I won't remember this, but honestly- it says it on your own product description.

Hey Mike,

My intention was not to start any sort of argument with you, just to clarify. I understand how the wording used in the description can be taken to mean not to take it off-road, however, all it is really saying is that that kit is intended mainly for the guy looking to fit a larger set of tires for a daily driver when being directly compared to our other more complete systems. The Overland Plus kit and Premium kits are certainly the better off-road options and will work better on the trail all day long, but the Jeep is very capable stock right from the factory, so the Ride Right system does not take anything away from that, it just gets you sitting a little bit taller to fit a larger set of tires properly. Hope this clears things up!

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[TheDerb]

Hey Mike,

My intention was not to start any sort of argument with you, just to clarify. I understand how the wording used in the description can be taken to mean not to take it off-road, however, all it is really saying is that that kit is intended mainly for the guy looking to fit a larger set of tires for a daily driver. The Overland Plus kit and Premium kits are certainly the better off-road options and will work better on the trail all day long, but the Jeep is very capable stock right from the factory, so the Ride Right system does not take anything away from that, it just gets you sitting a little bit taller to fit a larger set of tires properly. Hope this clears things up!

All is well, friend. Thank you for the quick response. I think it is nice that you all keep active on this board.
I also appreciate the second clarification- that certainly clarified a bit further and does make sense (as I said- Wednesdays and I don't get along )

Have a good day, and thanks for taking the time to chat with me!

 

[ttn333]

You mentioned laid off. So i assume you live off income. I would hold off on this till you have work. 4k in the bank sounds better right now.

What kind of advice is this? This is a Jeep forum damn it! You know J.E.E.P. We're here to live life dangerously. That's why I bought a Jeep instead of a Toyota.

 

[Blade1668]

RUSTYs lift is the best bang for the buck... rides great on and off road.... I drive mine like a sportscar through the turns

Good to read, I still need to install mine.

Back on the thread:
The 4000 birds in hand vs the look with out them is a more sound thing... As a retired person since June last year. The $$$ go faster than expected... S### happens. Luckily I have V.A. coverage as a D.A. Vet that emergency hospital stay would have me S.O.L. right now.

 

[jc1986]

I’m not going to lie, you can do a lot with 4k. The AEV full kit is a great setup for a decent price. You can also just frankenlift your truck by buying springs, shocks, control arms, and sway bar links.

You can also save some money by waiting for the buy 3 get 1 for a dollar deal that Jeep dealers run twice a year for 3 months( i think it’s 3 it could be 2) at a time.

I think I’m maybe 3500$ total if you Don’t dont include the wheels i have which I didn’t need, I just liked them.

mopar lower control arms (bam wholesaler) 60$ each
mopar extended sway bar link (bam wholesaler) 11$ each
synergy front track bar ~300$
eibach springs ~400$
bilstein 5100 ~600~
teraflex rear track at relocator bracket~100$
teraflex bump stops 60$
metalcloack bump stop extension 100$
total: 1700ish

yokohama x-at 1500$

total 3200

 

[ttn333]

My recommendation to you is to fix the laid off problem before you entertain the thought of spending $4000 on anything. That’s speaking from real life recent experience.

That's just unAmerican, not to mention depressing. The man came here to feel good and feed his Jeep addiction.

 

[Dougstdig]

That's just unAmerican, not to mention depressing. The man came here to feel good and feed his Jeep addiction.

Those of us that don't take handouts when in-between jobs know the value of self control.

 

[ttn333]

Those of us that don't take handouts when in-between jobs know the value of self control.

What handout is that?

 

[Dougstdig]

What handout is that?

(That's just unAmerican) That's just dumb. (not to mention depressing) Life happens to the best of us. Better to be prepared than dwindle down what reserves you have by non-essential purchases that can be made later. (The man came here to feel good) he should feel better others have crossed this bridge in the past and made it over the obstacle or life event, which held him back. (and feed his Jeep addiction) This isn't something to encourage by making what you perceive as a cute statement. Dreaming of taller more flexible jeeps is a good daydream and get's your mind off what could have been a shocking departure from what one thought was a sure thing job and that the weekly or biweekly check would always be there. If unemployment lingers it can easily create depression which can cause someone to move in an opposite direction than being employable. Some folks try to maintain the lifestyle they're accustomed to and rely on handouts to cover the difference instead of making what they have last until the income is being regenerated.

I may be sensitive to the situation, because I was recently there, but not supporting a correct decision without knowing all of the details, which I'd never ask, is just dumb and irresponsible. Yes, it's possible OP is independently wealthy and chooses employment to take up his time so he's not board, but not likely if he's limiting himself to $4k. Especially, in an environment with so much uncertainty, not just safe, but the best recommendation is to not make an emotional purchase to "feel better".

 

[Camaroboi13]

A mopar lift is 1800 bucks give or take. Some half inch spacers in the front are next to nothing. It’ll take you and a buddy a weekend with basic tools to install it. An alignment is 85 bucks. That leaves 2 grand to buy wheels and tires. I paid 300 bucks for five new wheels that were being discontinued. I also paid 960 for four 37” tires, and 100 bucks for an almost new spare tire. For the extra 600 leftover, get some adjustable track bars and buy your buddy some beer and pizza. It’s not that difficult to do if you think outside the box. Good luck on your project and good luck on the future employment, jobs are everywhere.

 

[Minty JL]

Well this escalated quickly

 

[Blade1668]

Well this escalated quickly

I agree, even though I'm part of the escalation of it.
Some of us have been though some crappy times / weather of life. So we (I) don't want others to have to go through the same things. I had planned to be retired at or before 40 many things screwed that up, I had planned to become fully funded and retired again in 3 more years that got changed last year. Being that it changed...
A factor that I've seen is it's in bad times is when accidents, medical or other problems happen to compound situations.

 

[Minty JL]

As Forrest Gump said, Shit happens.

Some people will only learn certain life lessons by experience

 

[ttn333]

(That's just unAmerican) That's just dumb. (not to mention depressing) Life happens to the best of us. Better to be prepared than dwindle down what reserves you have by non-essential purchases that can be made later. (The man came here to feel good) he should feel better others have crossed this bridge in the past and made it over the obstacle or life event, which held him back. (and feed his Jeep addiction) This isn't something to encourage by making what you perceive as a cute statement. Dreaming of taller more flexible jeeps is a good daydream and get's your mind off what could have been a shocking departure from what one thought was a sure thing job and that the weekly or biweekly check would always be there. If unemployment lingers it can easily create depression which can cause someone to move in an opposite direction than being employable. Some folks try to maintain the lifestyle they're accustomed to and rely on handouts to cover the difference instead of making what they have last until the income is being regenerated.

I may be sensitive to the situation, because I was recently there, but not supporting a correct decision without knowing all of the details, which I'd never ask, is just dumb and irresponsible. Yes, it's possible OP is independently wealthy and chooses employment to take up his time so he's not board, but not likely if he's limiting himself to $4k. Especially, in an environment with so much uncertainty, not just safe, but the best recommendation is to not make an emotional purchase to "feel better".

It was obviously said in joshing manner. I get it that you, unfortunately went through some difficulty recently and may be overly sensitive (as you say). But OP didn't come here for financial advise. I would assume he's an adult and can figure out his own personal finance. I'm in no position to judge another person's decision. As to the $4k limit, that is very normal to set a limit for things. I do that all the time, as a responsible adult. And that's the way I read it from OP. Its offensive to be so presumptious to call others "dumb and irresponsible" especially "withouth knowing all of the details".

 

[Dougstdig]

I agree, even though I'm part of the escalation of it.
Some of us have been though some crappy times / weather of life. So we (I) don't want others to have to go through the same things. I had planned to be retired at or before 40 many things screwed that up, I had planned to become fully funded and retired again in 3 more years that got changed last year. Being that it changed...
A factor that I've seen is it's in bad times is when accidents, medical or other problems happen to compound situations.

Bingo. My life events derailed my delusions of grandeur of any type of retirement. Being very successful in my youth...then injury...finished my degree on my dime, which I'm still paying for...2 divorces (divested retirement accounts twice) after paying for step kid's degrees or at least the majority of (while I still have debt for mine)...another major illness... Long story short I'll work till I drop. Came to the realization with the help of some professional contacts that I have to enjoy what life I have left. I've already outlived my father's and grandfather's life spends so now it's all about me. LOL...then the job changes with a gap, which didn't help in the slightest. Nice guys never win. Not that I want to be anything other, but damn. Luckily, I've had experience in several unrelated professional fields and I'm good in each of the fields and have established many excellent working relationships. So yeah...I know a little about life from experience. But everyone has their own story and it takes some of us longer to learn what's more important. One of those is to make sure to cover your 6.

Oh and sorry for the rant from last night...lol. Victim of my own success and I'm slammed at work to cover other people...again.

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