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Yes but a hemi will only be available aftermarket. And even if by some odds stellantis did offer a hemi. It’ll be 120k 392 with forced AWD and that’s not what any of us want.
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Nothing is official until it is official, but he has gotten the early jump on quite bit of Stellantis news the last year or so that has come to fruition. I believe he has somebody on the inside of Stellantis feeding him info before intended public consumption.

My opinion, I think Jeep is internalizing the discussion of putting a 5.7 Hemi in but I do not think it is a given yet. Like mention in TK's video, maybe late 2026 but I think there is still risk of the Gladiator being discontinued even before then.
too many rubi and mojave’s hemi will sell at the right price like crazy
 
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Kinda wondering if Dodge is truly bringing back the Dakota (as was mentioned in a thread here earlier this year) and putting the 5.7L Hemi in it as an option, why not offer it as an option in the Gladiator? Heck, they put a 6.4L Hemi (the 396 cu.in.) in a Wrangler so, I'm sure it's not too to much of a stretch to do the 5.7L Hemi in the Gladiator 🤔 🤔 🤔
Yes i agree and with a the 5.7 V8 confirm for Rams and i believe the Dodge Durango. Could it be that CDJR is potentially adding these as alternate engine choices to the Hurricanes.
 

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I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 hemi. The vehicle is a joy to drive and tows very well. It gets 22 mpg on the highway with its MDS. Looking back on the monroney sticker, the cost to add it to the vehicle:

5.7–Liter HEMI® V8 Engine $3,295
3.09 Rear Axle Ratio
700–Amp Maintenance Free Battery
Anti–Lock 4–Wheel Disc Heavy–Duty Brakes

Put the 5.7 Hemi in the gladiator, without any other changes, at this price point and it would sell and perform unbelievably. Doesn't need all the fluff and extra cost that the Wrangler 392 has.

Please Jeep do it.....just not sure what the carbon credit per vehicle would be and how much dirtier the 5.7 is for emissions.
 
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I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 hemi. The vehicle is a joy to drive and tows very well. It gets 22 mpg on the highway with its MDS. Looking back on the monroney sticker, the cost to add it to the vehicle:

5.7–Liter HEMI® V8 Engine $3,295
3.09 Rear Axle Ratio
700–Amp Maintenance Free Battery
Anti–Lock 4–Wheel Disc Heavy–Duty Brakes

Put the 5.7 Hemi in the gladiator, without any other changes, at this price point and it would sell and perform unbelievably. Doesn't need all the fluff and extra cost that the Wrangler 392 has.

Please Jeep do it.....just not sure what the carbon credit per vehicle would be and how much dirtier the 5.7 is for emissions.
HELL YEAHH!! Your right about the carbon credits but remember Trump and his new EPA has relax the a lot of the regulations and enforcement of them. CDJR will split from parent compony very soon to get away from some of those EU fines. Stay tune!!
 

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I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 hemi. The vehicle is a joy to drive and tows very well. It gets 22 mpg on the highway with its MDS. Looking back on the monroney sticker, the cost to add it to the vehicle:

5.7–Liter HEMI® V8 Engine $3,295
3.09 Rear Axle Ratio
700–Amp Maintenance Free Battery
Anti–Lock 4–Wheel Disc Heavy–Duty Brakes

Put the 5.7 Hemi in the gladiator, without any other changes, at this price point and it would sell and perform unbelievably. Doesn't need all the fluff and extra cost that the Wrangler 392 has.

Please Jeep do it.....just not sure what the carbon credit per vehicle would be and how much dirtier the 5.7 is for emissions.
I think making a Hemi a $4000 option is one most of us would on board with. The R&D is already done, the harness and everything else to install is already in the parts bin. Fuck it would be more cost effective for Jeep, because the hemi is way more reliable then the penastar. Sells would increase and it would be the only midsize in the market with a V8 option.........why did the over paid c suite fools not think of this????
 

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Well we know Installing the 5.7 Hemi, or any Hemi is not a monumental redesign. AMW4x4 has done it and it is a proving setup. Which leads me to this conspiracy theory.

I can not back anything up as I can not remember which video I heard it in I was watching and a short comment was made. "AMW4x4 has some exciting news coming". That was about the jest of it and I just assumed at that point they would be coming out with a new package or something.

Then I watched TK's video and got to thinking, what if Jeep does some upgrade options that goes through AMW as an option. No tooling or redesign would be needed on Jeeps end, just ship the completed package to AMW, minus the engine and trans installed. AMW does their thing and now you have a "factory" V8.

Now I may be completely off on this but wouldn't that be cool?
Jeep had AEV install V8's in the JK Wranglers and double cab Brutes so I could see that happening again with AMW.
 

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This dude never stops with with clickbait BS anonymous sources.

The Hemi platform is sunsetting.

The JT platform is sunsetting.

An obsolete engine going into an obsolete platform when they can't move them at 30% off right now 🤣😂🤣😂
Do you still own a jt ?
 

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I would SOOOOOO buy the Hemi!!! "If", it was factory. I'd trade mine in a heartbeat.
I'm too deep in to the mods for me to start over for an engine option. I will just swap it when the powertrain warranty is fragged
 

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Not if it costs $100K. It's still a $30K truck at best.
Hoping the $30k comment is satire. A Maverick is a $30k truck now and Ford sells plenty of them.

It is not the 392 Hemi but he did mention affordable. I guess we can take a good guess of prices from the 1500 Rams that had this engine form 2017-2024 i believe
This was extensively discussed on here years ago before things shifted to "electrify everything." The 5.7 and 6.4 costs were all over the place based on the relative demand and competitiveness of each segment. Cheapest in the (hyper competitive, several completing V8s) half-ton segment, most expensive in the Wrangler, and in between in the Charger, the Challenger, and the SUVs.

Getting the 5.7 then was a tall order (and obviously didn't come to fruition) and would be a taller order today. Ram would have to confirm keeping the engine around alongside the hurricane I6, Stellantis would have to be willing to put a 'premium full-size segment' engine in a midsize model (something they've not done), segmentation would need to be maintained between the 5.7 and the Wrangler 392, and the 5.7 would need to work from a packaging and cooling perspective (remember, the excellent 2.0 apparently does not).

It's certainly possible this all happens, but I'm skeptical. It would have made a lot more sense to just add in the standard output 3.0l hurricane a year ago if they were willing to offer full-size kit in the midsize trucks. And while the Gladiator's competitors have gotten much stronger with their engine options over the years the Wrangler's really hasn't, and it's obvious who the big brother is in Stellantis' product planners' eyes.
 

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It needs to be no more than a $4k-$5k upgrade over the standard v6. Just like the Ram 1500 was.
Ram 1500 upgrade used to be even cheaper than that. Under $2k I believe.

It's just challenging when they priced the 6.4 at tens of thousands of dollars more than the 3.6. Others have said on this forum that the 6.4 isn't some boutique racing engine, it's was a similarly cheap upgrade on the 2500 a few years ago.

Maybe they think a more favorable EPA regime will move the needle though??
 

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Ram 1500 upgrade used to be even cheaper than that. Under $2k I believe.

It's just challenging when they priced the 6.4 at tens of thousands of dollars more than the 3.6. Others have said on this forum that the 6.4 isn't some boutique racing engine, it's was a similarly cheap upgrade on the 2500 a few years ago.

Maybe they think a more favorable EPA regime will move the needle though??
Yeah, I think it *used* to be an ~3k - $3500 upgrade IIRC.

I, and most others as well I'd bet, don't want a 700 hp motor for an additional $50k+ price tag. Just give me that 5.7L with ~400/400 hp/tq for $4k. Heck, I'd likely even pay a $5k premium willingly. But $50k? Gimme a break. That's for the relatively few who have 1) $50k they can blow on a high performance option and who are 2) willing to do so. That's 1/100th of the population who can and would gladly pay an extra $4-5k for a 5.7L IMO.
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