A “rear” diff in the front?

[KurtP]

Standby for stupid question: So im looking at putting a TracLoc into my front diff. Ive confirmed that the Mopar TracLoc from a Sahara will physically fit into the front diff. Is there any reason it wont work as intended Because it is a “rear” diff? The only think i can think of would be a rear diff not allowing enough wheel spin differential and making steering a little off; but i cant think of a reason it wouldnt lock up.

i cant think of one, but have read people discussing being unhappy with TrueTrac because it “didnt work”. My first guess was that people bought the wrong product for their expectations/intended uses, but also read a theory that people were using the “wrong diff” in the front location.

a limited slip up front is perfect for my uses, and this is the only one I can find for a Dana 44/32 spline diff.

any other product Im missing? Any reason it wouldnt work that im missing?

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[KurtP]

N/m. Answered. Gears spin the wrong way inside.

 

[gotswap]

Its not really the gears, its the carrier that you need. Swap your gears over if it is the same carrier front to back

 

[gotswap]

Keep in mind that it wont function as a limited slip unless you are in 4wd

 

[KurtP]

Keep in mind that it wont function as a limited slip unless you are in 4wd

thats all im looking for.

no one makes a d44/32spline/front lsd. So. Im outta luck it seems.

 

[Jaxmax]

HEY! Wait one minute my friend, what happened to
" I've been all over four continents and never needed front locker".
Kurt your Mojave will just hammer through at like forty miles an hour. Ha, sorry couldn't help myself, and I do think gears are opposite also.....Jack

 

[KurtP]

HEY! Wait one minute my friend, what happened to
" I've been all over four continents and never needed front locker".
Kurt your Mojave will just hammer through at like forty miles an hour. Ha, sorry couldn't help myself, and I do think gears are opposite also.....Jack

hahahaha i dont blame you

well, you dont. I get why rock bashers want them and that makes sense. I never said they arent nice, just that they arent needed. When im climbing i left foot brake and modulate throttle for the front and lock the rear. North America, South America, Europe, Africa. Been fine that way. Most of my trucks didnt have a rear one either.

i want a LSD in the front for snow. Its tricker to left foot brake at speed.

 

[kevman65]

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...ir-locker-into-the-front-of-a-jt-sport.32030/

 

[KurtP]

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...ir-locker-into-the-front-of-a-jt-sport.32030/

thanks. Ill read it more in depth tonight. Skimming it, seems he got a rear diff to work up front? Is physically locking it different than a LSD doing it?

 

[kevman65]

He uses ARB air lockers. If you look through all his videos, he really likes the ARB stuff. He does solid work and will admit when something isn't right and shows how to fix the problem.

It's not exactly what you are looking for, but shows it can be done.

If you try to have a conversation with him, keep in mind he's on Guam and half a planet away.

 

[Gobi Wan K]

As was mentioned the item you are looking at, the Truetrac, is what is called a carrier. The gears are attached to this. So if you are not changing your gearing you can probably reuse yours. That said, sometimes front and rear differentials are different and sometimes they are not so I would check with Detroit. Although at this stage it wouldn't surprise me if they don't know.

 

[Gobi Wan K]

thanks. Ill read it more in depth tonight. Skimming it, seems he got a rear diff to work up front? Is physically locking it different than a LSD doing it?

A "locker" physically connects the two axle shafts. A limited slip uses springs or clutches to make the 2 axles work together although they are never "locked" together so one wheel could still spin.

 

[KurtP]

A "locker" physically connects the two axle shafts. A limited slip uses springs or clutches to make the 2 axles work together although they are never "locked" together so one wheel could still spin.

i understand how they work in that sense. What Im trying to ascertain is whether Or not a LSD is “directional” or f/r specific. I have no idea and have gotten a different answer at each ask.

 

[Gobi Wan K]

i understand how they work in that sense. What Im trying to ascertain is whether Or not a LSD is “directional” or f/r specific. I have no idea and have gotten a different answer at each ask.

Gotcha

That would be specific to each unit I believe. It would depend on how the locking action of the LSD occurs.

 

[KurtP]

Gotcha

That would be specific to each unit I believe. It would depend on how the locking action of the LSD occurs.

thats what i was thinking too. My initial thought without looking at a diagram is that a clutch force differential would probably be fine in either direction, but a helical or planetary gear would not be.

your thoughts?

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