Auto stop, worst idea ever just got worse.

[ShadowsPapa]

Amazing what annoys people without really even touching them or having a direct impact on them in any way.
interesting, and explains why there's so much rage in the world and on the road.

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[FrankFrqnkFrank]

Yes, actually! They always round up.

my sister said she was 5’ 12” back in 1973.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

my sister said she was 5’ 12” back in 1973.

Better than being a 6' lady, I suppose?

 

[10ecHarry]

This sorry ass piece of shit invention was as delightful as a hemorrhoid when it worked perfectly, now at 10,000 miles it decided to start malfuntioning. First it was just the dash light but now it sometimes stalls me out when it jars to life. Can't get into the dealer for another 10 days, how many of you guys have or are currently enjoying this? Anyone know what actually causes this problem and what to expect?

Delete the aux battery.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Delete the aux battery.

Yeah, the internet solution to all (instead of fixing the real underlying issues in many cases)

 

[10ecHarry]

Yeah, the internet solution to all (instead of fixing the real underlying issues in many cases)

Delete works for me. going on 3 years now with out aux batt. I don't need it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Delete works for me. going on 3 years now with out aux batt. I don't need it.

But it's not a real solution and doesn't always address the true root cause of the errors.
Do what you like on yours - but it's not a "solution", it's a hack and too often ignores underlying issues. That's the problem with the internet........
It's akin to saying you can fix DW with a new steering stabilizer.

 

[Geoarch]

And if it's his main battery dying? jumping to conclusions much......?



YES. TysonGladiator's video.
Here it is for reference, straight to the YT video but he's got a thread here introducing the video as well -



Again - assume much? Could be either, or neither. Could be a connection issue like a LOOSE cable clamp (refer to Tyson's video).

Yeah, it's possible, but "probably" is not as accurate.

Best to check the connections at the crank battery - make sure you can't turn or move the cables - check those ground cable nuts on the IBS, check the IBS clamp and that it fits tightly to the negative battery post, check the positive cable connection.

Charge each battery, test each battery, if they check out fine and charge fine using an AGM charger (several hours, not an hour, good enough - do a full charge), disconnect and reset the IBS, put it all back together.
That'll either take care of things, or you have a battery going bad - could be either, could be both.



That's pretty new for a real battery issue - but never say never. More likely something else going on like a bad connection or you got one of those Jeep batteries that literally fails after a few months.
And if you don't drive it almost daily, and/or if your drives are short, you're not keeping the batteries up full. If it sits over a few days, or if you only drive 10 miles in a trip, you need to consider a battery minder/battery tender type device to keep them full.
Lack of driving, and short drives, can result in battery issues.
And back to always blaming the aux battery - Jeep 4xe's have a history of 12 volt battery failures, some after only a few months. Guess what they don't have - an aux battery.

That buy is smart and funny as hell. Wish he was nearby.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That buy is smart and funny as hell. Wish he was nearby.

Totally agree. I hear he's not far from where my son and his family live so one of these days I hope to meet a friend I've never yet met. One of the guys who makes the world all worth it.

 

[jeepstertim]

As a Brit, try finding a car in the UK without stop/start. Honestly, the JTR system is so much better than the 2 Audis I have, which will turn off before I come to an absolute halt and even switch off in the pause from D to R!! The Jeep system is much better and so far..........faultless.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

As a Brit, try finding a car in the UK without stop/start. Honestly, the JTR system is so much better than the 2 Audis I have, which will turn off before I come to an absolute halt and even switch off in the pause from D to R!! The Jeep system is much better and so far..........faultless.

The nice thing is that the brake pedal is actually pressure sensitive and you can learn how to apply the pedal so that it won't shut down, or does, and so on. It's not an on/off deal. I can brake and come to a stop and not trigger ESS if I see it's a stale red. Done it many times.
But then I don't take off and then later come to a stop like a teenager, either. I approach the stop with a plan, I don't get there and slam the pedal.

 

[Kevin_D]

The nice thing is that the brake pedal is actually pressure sensitive and you can learn how to apply the pedal so that it won't shut down, or does, and so on. It's not an on/off deal. I can brake and come to a stop and not trigger ESS if I see it's a stale red. Done it many times.
But then I don't take off and then later come to a stop like a teenager, either. I approach the stop with a plan, I don't get there and slam the pedal.

But you’re a reasonable person that understands the ESS system, not a hair-triggered internet nobody whose answer to the ESS is to get rid of it.
It works like it’s supposed to IF there aren’t other issues with the truck. It’s been proven to reduce both fuel consumption and emissions. BUT Goddamnit, I don’t like it so let’s hack things up to get rid of it!
Wish I had a dollar for every ESS hate thread…

Kevin

 

[JTGuy]

The ESS was no big deal to me but I turned it off with my Tazer anyway. I think I can play with the auto stop also.

 

[Lost1wing]

I keep mine off using the Tazer. My typical day of driving is 3 miles to the first stop sign. It may or may not be warm enough for a stop start. My next stop sign is 25 miles later. I'm going to stop and make a right turn. Engine stops and starts, no savings on that one. I have two more opportunities for a stop start, depends on the traffic light. I just keep it off.

When traveling in stop and go ttaffic, I will turn it on. But usually it is too warm outside and only kicks in a few times. I assume cold weather will have a similar effect.

I imagine those who drive city streets, to find it annoying that every stop sign you come to, the engine stops.

Forcing consumers to pay for this technology that isn't wanted is beyond me. If the manufacturers need "credits", come up with a product that works for everyone.

Reading the public feedback on CAFE, leads me to believe most people have no idea how things work, magic if you will. Alot of the cut and paste statements were relating to poor people need to save money on fuel and could benefit from less pollution. Others talked about the poor as well. Their reference was not on the pollution or saving fuel, but on the fact that they can not afford a new car with these features and are most likely driving something not fuel efficient. They suggest a better option that does not increase the price of a vehicle. Fuel efficient vehicles that do not cost an arm and a leg to repair. Repair bills on technology have gone up tremendously was also reported.

CAFE. Regulation.Gov web site.

 

[legacy_etu]

The nice thing is that the brake pedal is actually pressure sensitive and you can learn how to apply the pedal so that it won't shut down, or does, and so on. It's not an on/off deal. I can brake and come to a stop and not trigger ESS if I see it's a stale red. Done it many times.
But then I don't take off and then later come to a stop like a teenager, either. I approach the stop with a plan, I don't get there and slam the pedal.

Hmm, I can't get mine to function this way. It always shuts off even with the lightest of pressure on the pedal.

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