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Load Range E & F will ride rougher to some do to the increased structure, but "rough" is a subjective term
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I have run C, E, and F load range tires on my Gladiator. There is no world where E or F load range tires would be necessary on the Gladiator. E and F load range tires are for large heavy duty pickups and commercial vehicles hauling large loads. The Gladiator is so light that C load range is more than adequate. Not to mention that E and F tires have super stiff sidewalls, and your ride quality will suffer. C offers a smoother ride.
 

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35” F’s 12 ply MT(mud claws), about 20k on them now, the perfect JT tire, the 12 ply keeps them stood up good with low pressure, Awesome in snow and mud, run 39 in them on highway at 80.
Load range F 35s running 39 psi, at least you should be able to tell if the quarter you just ran over was heads or tails by feel. Those tires are rated to hold over 2k pounds...each at 25 psi. Do yourself, your passengers, and your suspension a favor and drop 10 psi minimum. I only run 27 psi in my E rated 37s and they chalk test perfect, ride well, and wear evenly.
 

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Load Range E & F will ride rougher to some do to the increased structure, but "rough" is a subjective term
And you can easily adjust that by lowering the pressure. Anybody running non-stock tires and going by the door jamb pressure is doing themselves a disservice. E and F range tires should never need more than 25-30psi on a gladiator unless you're towing a heavy trailer.
 

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.. Not to mention that E and F tires have super stiff sidewalls, and your ride quality will suffer. ...
This is one of those things that keeps getting repeated, but it isn't an accurate statement for all LRE & F tires.

LRE & F tires need strong sidewalls in order to hold the higher air pressure required to carry heavier loads. This does not always equate to a 'stiffer' sidewall, no matter how many times someone posts it on the interweb. The fact is that modern tire construction can produce a strong, yet very flexible sidewall.

I'm running 255/85R17 (35x10x17) Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT on my JK, which are Load Range E. Comparing them (unmounted) to my old KM2s, also LRE, the sidewalls are noticeably more flexible. I've also run them back-to-back with 285/70R17 KO2s in Load Range C, and there is no noticeable difference in ride quality. Off-road, the LRE BBATs flex really well, even up at about 20psi, where I used to have to air down to 15psi on my KM2s.
 

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And you can easily adjust that by lowering the pressure. Anybody running non-stock tires and going by the door jamb pressure is doing themselves a disservice. E and F range tires should never need more than 25-30psi on a gladiator unless you're towing a heavy trailer.
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Not true guys, sorry. Load range specifically pertains to the amount of LOAD a tire can handle. Tire pressure is related of course but load range E and F tires will always have a much stiffer sidewall than a load range C or even SL. It’s just the way it is. Load range also pertains to the number of plies. More plies are needed in order to support more weight. There is no world where you can go up in load range without adding plies or sidewall density. This also adds weight. Run E’s or F’s all you want, but don’t kid yourself, they are indeed stiffer than C’s, firmer ride, heavier, and absolutely overkill for a vehicle like a Jeep Gladiator. If you add 1500-2000 lbs to your Gladiator then yes maybe you need an E. Oh and lowering pressure on a E or F won’t help when running them on a light truck like the Gladiator. The sidewalls are still ridiculously stiff and you won’t get the effect you think you’re getting. Best to run the load range tire for the weight of the vehicle. And pushing on a tire to “flex” it while it’s unmounted is not an accurate test of sidewall stiffness. There a lot more to it than that.
 
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Load range F 35s running 39 psi, at least you should be able to tell if the quarter you just ran over was heads or tails by feel. Those tires are rated to hold over 2k pounds...each at 25 psi. Do yourself, your passengers, and your suspension a favor and drop 10 psi minimum. I only run 27 psi in my E rated 37s and they chalk test perfect, ride well, and wear evenly.
I understand…I’m totally good with the rough ride (Jeep), my passengers never complain (see attached pic)and as soon as I wear out the current suspension (stock) it will give me a legitimate reason to upgrade it. (Devious plan)

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Did you confuse plies for…. Tread depth? I’m curious why someone would want 12 ply tires on a gladiator.
 

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Did you confuse plies for…. Tread depth? I’m curious why someone would want 12 ply tires on a gladiator.
No, I put 12 ply’s on for a few reasons…I air down a lot, when I’m running 10-12psi in the sand the side wall stiffness keeps them stood up, the same in the rocks. When I first got the JT a sand adventure on the soft (side walls) stockies resulted in rolling both front tires off the rims, that same trail I’ve been on 10 times since then with zero issues with the 12 ply’s. I tow a 19’ jet boat (a lot, I’m retired) and they Really help stabilize the soft ass coils in the back. Only had them at full 80 psi once (see pic), this was my sons emergency tow out in the middle of No where during an elk hunt this year. Hope this helps.

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No, I put 12 ply’s on for a few reasons…I air down a lot, when I’m running 10-12psi in the sand the side wall stiffness keeps them stood up, the same in the rocks. When I first got the JT a sand adventure on the soft (side walls) stockies resulted in rolling both front tires off the rims, that same trail I’ve been on 10 times since then with zero issues with the 12 ply’s. I tow a 19’ jet boat (a lot, I’m retired) and they Really help stabilize the soft ass coils in the back. Only had them at full 80 psi once (see pic), this was my sons emergency tow out in the middle of No where during an elk hunt this year. Hope this helps.

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isn’t the point of airing down in the sand (and rocks) to increase the contact patch of the tires? A stiff sidewall that keeps the tire “stood up” defeats the purpose of airing down.
 

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isn’t the point of airing down in the sand (and rocks) to increase the contact patch of the tires? A stiff sidewall that keeps the tire “stood up” defeats the purpose of airing down.
That and running a stiffer tire so you have to air down more to get the same effect seems pointless. The stock tires at 14-15 psi would stay on the bead just as well and yet be just as soft if not softer than a load F tire at 10 psi.
 

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isn’t the point of airing down in the sand (and rocks) to increase the contact patch of the tires? A stiff sidewall that keeps the tire “stood up” defeats the purpose of airing down.
Yes and no IMO increasing the contact patch is the purpose, too soft of side wall and too low of psi will roll off the bead. With Stiffer side wall and low psi you now stand a chance of not changing out a tire on the trail.
 

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That and running a stiffer tire so you have to air down more to get the same effect seems pointless. The stock tires at 14-15 psi would stay on the bead just as well and yet be just as soft if not softer than a load F tire at 10 psi.
Experience or quessing?
 
 







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