Can you help me lift this?

[KAExcaliber]

The time has finally come and I couldn't be more exc... Overwhelmed?

What I've got:
- JTRD
- Nomad Deluxe w/ KM3s (37x12.5x17)
- RR Arcus stubby bumper (bull bar currently available if anyone wants to buy it)
- Warn 12k winch
- Roll N Lock Tonneau

What I'd like to do:
- Drive this truck comfortably daily (not expecting cadillac comfort)
- Take this truck rock crawling in big bear without too much concern - would love to hit the Rubicon next year!
- We took the truck out to Glammis before the TSB was done and I was coughing up sand for a week after bottoming out constantly. Looking forward to going back but this will be the least of our gladiator use.
- Most importantly, tow my 6k trailer w/ close to 800 lbs tongue weight. I hauled this trailer back from East Texas to California in the JTRD without any issues but would love beef up the back end to reduce the sag.

What I was planning on doing thus far:
- Clayton 3.5 Overland Plus w/ HD springs
- Falcon Sp2 3.3 Fast Adjust
- (not sure what else MUST go here)
- (not sure what else SHOULD go here, at least at some point)

Things worth consideration:
- I was worried the HD springs might be too stiff for everyday driving?
- I have read the Sp2 3.3's aren't a good match w/ Clayton due to the stiffer springs.
- I have read great things about the Synergy lift kits but don't know enough
- I'm going to be installing the components myself, I have done this before on my old JKU
- I know barely anything about tuning, alignment, etc. In fact I am sure there is a lot I don't know but I am happy to learn.
- I subscribe to the "cry once" mentality but also want to be cautious not to spend an arm and a leg on a vehicle that realistically won't be offloaded / hitting the sand more than 6 ( at least for now) times a year. I will be towing at least that often.

Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks inf advance!

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[aFatBird]

Did similar with the clayton 3.5 overland plus diesel lift and hd rear springs with the Falcon 3.1 diesel shocks. Opted for hd springs due to the weight of a topper and gear always in the back. Wouldn't recommend the hd springs unless you carry alot frequently. Also airbags will be a better solution for when you tow.

Also stronger steering isn't a bad idea whet you go bigger in tires.

Tldr: I have a similar setup with a tad more weight and I'm happy with it.

 

[Idlethunder]

The time has finally come and I couldn't be more exc... Overwhelmed?

What I've got:
- JTRD
- Nomad Deluxe w/ KM3s (37x12.5x17)
- RR Arcus stubby bumper (bull bar currently available if anyone wants to buy it)
- Warn 12k winch
- Roll N Lock Tonneau

What I'd like to do:
- Drive this truck comfortably daily (not expecting cadillac comfort)
- Take this truck rock crawling in big bear without too much concern - would love to hit the Rubicon next year!
- We took the truck out to Glammis before the TSB was done and I was coughing up sand for a week after bottoming out constantly. Looking forward to going back but this will be the least of our gladiator use.
- Most importantly, tow my 6k trailer w/ close to 800 lbs tongue weight. I hauled this trailer back from East Texas to California in the JTRD without any issues but would love beef up the back end to reduce the sag.

What I was planning on doing thus far:
- Clayton 3.5 Overland Plus w/ HD springs
- Falcon Sp2 3.3 Fast Adjust
- (not sure what else MUST go here)
- (not sure what else SHOULD go here, at least at some point)

Things worth consideration:
- I was worried the HD springs might be too stiff for everyday driving?
- I have read the Sp2 3.3's aren't a good match w/ Clayton due to the stiffer springs.
- I have read great things about the Synergy lift kits but don't know enough
- I'm going to be installing the components myself, I have done this before on my old JKU
- I know barely anything about tuning, alignment, etc. In fact I am sure there is a lot I don't know but I am happy to learn.
- I subscribe to the "cry once" mentality but also want to be cautious not to spend an arm and a leg on a vehicle that realistically won't be offloaded / hitting the sand more than 6 ( at least for now) times a year. I will be towing at least that often.

Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks inf advance!

A few weekends back I installed a 2.5 Clayton Overland Plus on my 3.6 Rubicon. It took probably 3 times as long as it should have but I did it alone in the driveway and was more worried about doing it right than doing it quickly. I followed Claytons instruction, and the install went fairly well. On the 2.5 lift they only tell you to remove the bolts and clips holding the rear brake lines in place before lowering the axle. That is how I did it the first time and there was barely enough room to get the new rear springs in. Once I had the upper end in place, I used a prybar to get the bottoms in. By the time I got to the last spring I was worn out and the OEM coil sleeve popped off as the spring slid into place. Rather than remove the spring and start again, I left it off and that spring had a God awful squeak. I ended up ordering a set of sleeves that fit the larger Clayton springs much better than the factory ones and I put them on weekend before last. This time after loosening the control arms, track bar, sway bar links, and unbolting the shocks, I also removed the brake calipers. Once they were off, the axle dropped down far enough to easily get the springs back in and with the new sleeves from 034motorsport.com they no longer make any noise.

For shocks, I went with Falcon Sp2 3.1s and Clayton gave me a great deal on them. Teraflex told me that they are discontinuing the 3.1s for the JT because they haven’t been very popular. I decided to give them a try and, if needed later, buy the upgrade kit to add the fast adjust option. I’ve tried the 3.1s in both soft and performance and I much prefer the soft setting. They are great on my wash boarded gravel and dirt road, and they handle nicely on the highway. So far, I haven’t run into a situation where I felt any adjustment was needed but I haven’t been far offroad yet either. I have towed a couple of small travel trailers since installing the lift and shocks and if anything, it handles better than before. I love the JT now more than before the lift and have no hesitation in recommending Clayton.

 

[NotSo Bright White]

I hear you with the overwhelmed comment. I am trying to decide if I want to go with the AEV HD 3 inch lift for JTRD. I am currently running the Mopar 2 inch diesel lift. I too am running Nomads but with 37’s KM2’s. I added a Harker Outdoor pop up wedge camper with 300 pounds of weight. And the gear keeps adding up. Just feels soft and a lot of side by side sway. No bottoming out issues but no rock crawling due to multiple back surgeries. I will be following your decision and hopefully you will post a review when you decide.

 

[KAExcaliber]

Did similar with the clayton 3.5 overland plus diesel lift and hd rear springs with the Falcon 3.1 diesel shocks. Opted for hd springs due to the weight of a topper and gear always in the back. Wouldn't recommend the hd springs unless you carry alot frequently. Also airbags will be a better solution for when you tow.

Also stronger steering isn't a bad idea whet you go bigger in tires.

Tldr: I have a similar setup with a tad more weight and I'm happy with it.

I considered airbags for their flexibility, i figured pairing them with the standard 3.5 springs would give a smoother ride, when I’m not towing over the HD springs but wasn’t sure if I wanted to give up extra strength the HDs offered.

Steering is definitely on my radar. I was looking at the Fox stabilizer Clayton offers as an add on to their lifts. I also read, there are at least a few forum members out there, who haven’t touched their stock steering and vouch for a proper set up being able to stand up to the new lifted components.

Was also curious about the YETI HD but haven’t gone down that investigative hole yet.

 

[KAExcaliber]

Would love some more feedback before black friday

 

[SD Rider]

Clayton's lifts are on sale now. Sale is good until 30NOV. I pulled the trigger yesterday on the 3.5" Overland lift....slippery slope just got wetter.

 

[chorky]

For everything you say you realistically do. Some serious consideration into AEV is in order. Their springs will support the weight, and the lift (not the spacer lift the actual lift) does very well for daily drivers without the need for routine maintenance like all the others. Plus, it's a heck of a lot cheaper. Not saying the others are bad by any means, but often times people buy WAY more than what they need.

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