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[CT_Gladiator]

That's what happens when you rate a car based on static performance metrics and not doing any qualitative/objective research. Personally, I bought my Gladiator specifically FOR the wind noise. Gladiator is literally the only midsize truck i'd buy because it makes up for all the compromises of a midsize truck by being a Jeep. If it wasnt for the Gladiator, I'd have a JL and would have kept my F150 for truck stuff. Other midsize trucks just plain suck.

No to derail the thread but which mirrors are those?

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[MoDean]

CR has never been a fan of Jeep. They don't understand the use.

 

[dcmdon]

MotorBiscuit: Consumer Reports and J.D. Power Agree on the Worst Midsize Truck.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/consumer-reports-j-d-power-agree-worst-midsize-truck/

Only things I agree with in this article are the fuel efficiency should be better and the steering needs improvement as well. But I would never buy a Ridgeline, no matter how many great reviews it gets. I believe in buying American and nothing is as fun as a Jeep!

I agree with you on the Ridgeline about everything except for buying American.

Jeep is owned by a foreign company and sources many of its parts from elsewhere. Including high value drivetrain components.

Honda USA is owned by a foreign company that sources the bulk of its parts from within the US. Including engines and transmissions. Honda actually has a foundry that casts engine blocks. Completed engines from Honda USA are exported all over the world.

A diesel Gladiator's engine and transmission are made in Italy. (Not 100% sure on where the tranny is made, but its not American. )

The Ridgeline has more American content than any Gladiator.

In fact the Ridgeline has the 6th most domestic content of ANY vehicle sold in the US.

https://www.cars.com/american-made-index/

Here is a press release with more details from Honda.
https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-c...erican-made-index-with-4-of-the-top-10-models

 

[dcmdon]

Again, the Ridgeline is an all-wheel drive car with a bed on the back. Should compare it to Subarus or Toyota Rav4.

The Ridgeline is a truck in that it can tow like a truck. Its got a 5000 lb tow rating and is happy towing close to that all day long.

My dad has a Ridgeline and for what it is, its a brilliant if ugly vehicle.

It rides like a car. (because its based on one)
It gets car like fuel economy
It handles and steers like a car.

It has a secure trunk under the floor of the bed that is larger than the trunks in many cars.

Plus it has a bed and is well set up for towing with built in sway control and hook ups for a trailer brake controller.

What the Honda is not is any kind of off road vehicle. Just like the majority of trucks sold. My neighbor's F150 is typical of a modern truck in that it rolls on 19" wheels with 60 series street tires.

The new "rugged" off road version of the Ridgeline is a joke. But it will sell because the reality is that it meets the off-road needs of most truck owners, including 95% of Gladiator owners.

Judged by all logical standards the Ridgeline is vastly superior to the Gladiator. But the Gladiator, like the Wrangler its based on has something . . . its something that transcends logic and numbers. And these magazines don't get that.

 

[Lunentucker]

Looks like the Colorado is the most American truck in the class.

https://kogod.american.edu/autoindex/2021

 

[Rburns1776]

No to derail the thread but which mirrors are those?

Haha, those are the Mopar ones. "Mopar doors off mirror kit". They've been solid, albeit a little expensive. I ordered mine with my Gladiator, which saved $100 over buying them after the fact

 

[Geoarch]

Looks like the Colorado is the most American truck in the class.

https://kogod.american.edu/autoindex/2021

My window sticker says 68% made in US and Canada, and 21% Mexico. I assume the rest China and others.

 

[andrew8404]

The Ridgeline is a truck in that it can tow like a truck. Its got a 5000 lb tow rating and is happy towing close to that all day long.

My dad has a Ridgeline and for what it is, its a brilliant if ugly vehicle.

It rides like a car. (because its based on one)
It gets car like fuel economy
It handles and steers like a car.

It has a secure trunk under the floor of the bed that is larger than the trunks in many cars.

Plus it has a bed and is well set up for towing with built in sway control and hook ups for a trailer brake controller.

What the Honda is not is any kind of off road vehicle. Just like the majority of trucks sold. My neighbor's F150 is typical of a modern truck in that it rolls on 19" wheels with 60 series street tires.

The new "rugged" off road version of the Ridgeline is a joke. But it will sell because the reality is that it meets the off-road needs of most truck owners, including 95% of Gladiator owners.

Judged by all logical standards the Ridgeline is vastly superior to the Gladiator. But the Gladiator, like the Wrangler its based on has something . . . its something that transcends logic and numbers. And these magazines don't get that.

Should be compared to Maverick and now Santa Cruz. Though Ridgeline is much bigger in size.

 

[Lunentucker]

My window sticker says 68% made in US and Canada, and 21% Mexico. I assume the rest China and others.

You have to look at the metrics they used to determine the rankings. They go a little beyond parts and labor.

 

[CT_Gladiator]

Haha, those are the Mopar ones. "Mopar doors off mirror kit". They've been solid, albeit a little expensive. I ordered mine with my Gladiator, which saved $100 over buying them after the fact

Thanks. I had the Quadratec mirror movers on my JKU. They worked great. Looking for something solid for the JT.

 

[JoeInOh]

I have had 4 tacomas, 3 F150s, 3 Wranglers, an Explorer Sport Trac, and was smitten by the 41 mpg Maverick. I also had a preorder reservation on a Rivian R1T.

The F150 is too big - it barely can fit in my garage. I drive around with it mostly empty 330 days/year.

Tacomas are marginal and boring. I had one as a Lemon Law buyback. Yes, I got another one, but now my 12-year-old daughters are too tall for the backseat. It is way over-rated. Drum brakes.

I agree with you on the Ridgeline about everything except for buying American.

Jeep is owned by a foreign company and sources many of its parts from elsewhere. Including high value drivetrain components.

Honda USA is owned by a foreign company that sources the bulk of its parts from within the US. Including engines and transmissions. Honda actually has a foundry that casts engine blocks. Completed engines from Honda USA are exported all over the world.

A diesel Gladiator's engine and transmission are made in Italy. (Not 100% sure on where the tranny is made, but its not American. )

The Ridgeline has more American content than any Gladiator.

In fact the Ridgeline has the 6th most domestic content of ANY vehicle sold in the US.

https://www.cars.com/american-made-index/

Here is a press release with more details from Honda.
https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-c...erican-made-index-with-4-of-the-top-10-models

I am pro Gladiator - they are built in Ohio. Well, final assembly is in Ohio.

20+ years ago, when I ordered a Civic - I ensured the one I received was Ohio built.

Currently, (last year's data) the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y are the most American-made cars.

I try not to think about the corporate a-holes and who owns what. I am concerned about American jobs and decent wages going to American workers.

 

[tcolt45]

I always laugh at these reviews especially since I see more Gladiators every day than all the others combined.

 

[Caraholic]

MotorBiscuit: Consumer Reports and J.D. Power Agree on the Worst Midsize Truck.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/consumer-reports-j-d-power-agree-worst-midsize-truck/

Only things I agree with in this article are the fuel efficiency should be better and the steering needs improvement as well. But I would never buy a Ridgeline, no matter how many great reviews it gets. I believe in buying American and nothing is as fun as a Jeep!

Hey keep in mind this blog outfit is NOT recognized as a worth a shit group in any other mainstream auto media, or automotive publication. they are a group of failed college bloggers that make a living off trolling the industry. Be sure they’re here reading this and poking the companies they are trying to troll. I would not use an article from them printed on any paper to wipe with.
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[Saharacane]

Hey keep in mind this blog outfit is NOT recognized as a worth a shit group in any other mainstream auto media, or automotive publication. they are a group of failed college bloggers that make a living off trolling the industry. Be sure they’re here reading this and poking the companies they are trying to troll. I would not use an article from them printed on any paper to wipe with.
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So, what you're saying is that a site called, MOTORBISCUIT is not a reputable news source??? JK

All they're really doing is taking information from another source and making a half a$$ attempt at recycling it for clicks.
Who would do that???
Oh yeah, I did.

 

[ZoMojave]

No matter what angle you see my Mojave, it's still better looking and more Capable than any of those other cookie cutter trucks mentioned! I've heard "nice truck" from quite a few Chevy and Ford owners and I hadn't even removed the top and doors!

More people "rubber neck" as I drive my Mojave than almost any other vehicle I have ever owned. Can't argue with that!

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