Honestly? If you need this sign, I’m fine with nature taking it’s course.Oh, absolutely. I wasn't trying to imply that all Ivermectin is horse wormer, only that people are literally going to Tractor Supply and buying it in horse wormer form to treat Covid.
Mine was a 2017 limited, I don't know if they were different. I am not saying it was vastly different but the Jeep is more jumpy or something. On a positive note, my Gladiator rides much better than my 2015 JKU.
I'm sure a limited drives much better than a TRD pro, so that could be it. But we might just also have different subjective ideas of a good ride, or it could be different jeep trims as well. My wife's JKU Sahara drives better thany JTR, in my opinion. The Tacoma TRD pro felt like it was going to flip while turning (so much body roll). It was also too cramped inside for me to be comfortable. As you stated, the jeep with its solid axles will definitely require more active steering input, but otherwise, it doesn't handle poorly.
I'd like to know what your definition of better driving was because between the two that's the only thing I miss about my Tacoma. The tighter steering, better control over bumpy terrain and roads, and more planted feel in corners was miles ahead of my gladiator even the rear coils soak up the road more nicely than the leafs in the Tacoma. The difference between the two at 85 is the most night and day I've experienced between two similar vehicles.
Well, for starters, I don't regularly hit 85, because that would ge me arrested here (it seriously would). But mainly going around curves, just seemed like the body roll was very extreme. Was yours a TRD pro? Ive always liked Tacomas, so I wanted to like it. It was used 2019, so it was cheaper than the gladiator. So my wallet really wanted me to like it.
Yeah mine was just an Off Road and having owned it and a 4x4 Sport, they both handled better to me at higher speeds but the leafs can be more harsh at lower speeds. I think my general concern is that at higher speeds, the looser steering is much more worrying and being shaped like a brick doesn't help either. It was a lot more comfortable when I lived in VA where 10 over is a felony and most posted limits are 55-65.
And the real hum dinger... does anyone actually know anyone personally who was trying to purchase horse dewormer for the purposes of thinking it would treat covid... or just another "story" like consumer report "reporting" something with a hiden motive behind what they write. It's like a spiraling circle you can never get out of.
I'm curious to compare. A family member is waiting to take delivery of a Taco Pro any day... we are going to have to do some comparisons ourselves!
All the gladiator trims ride quite differently too though. My rubi will be stiffer than your willys. The Mojave will ride differently (most say better) than both. I imagine an overland or HA with the larger wheels will ride differently still. A diesel has to ride at least a bit differently than a 3.6, due to the different weight distribution. I guess you really have to compare like for like.
Interesting point. So far I like how my 3.6L Willy's behaves on the road. I'm really curious and hopeful we "gladiators" are the first small truck to get a hybrid setup "4Xe" as I think it would be a gamechanger for so many scenarios.
Yeah, I don't know enough about Toyotas to know if their different trims have the suspensions tuned as much as jeeps do or not. I'd imagine at least on the offroad trims they are, but I really don't know. I know I like Toyota trucks, it just wasn't for me. I'll probably land an older one some day.
Yes, multiple times. It took a little while, but I didn't think it was a big deal. I simply checked a block next to any area where my vehicle had a problem.
I'm sure the survey is accurate. It's just skewed by how many first time jeep buyers are buying gladiators. That's really the only explanation to why a Wrangler, which is mechanically identical and produced on the same lines, would have a much different rating than a gladiator. They're pretty much the same. People see "Cool! Convertible truck!" And forget it's a jeep, warts and all. I'm under no delusions that these are perfect. But the disparity between wranglers and gladiators is odd. Many-time jeep owners are willing to look over things others aren't. For better or for worse. This was my second "real" jeep after a TJ we parted with a few years back. But I knew what I was getting into. If you're used to Toyota-like drive it and forget it experience, and a quiet ride with never any leaks (roof or axle haha) and no wind noise, it'll be quite disappointing. If you're not used to the solid axle steering experience, and not having independent suspension, it will be disappointing as well.
I’m not saying that at all and this isn’t my opinion or my logic. You’re assuming that there is only one kind of survey methodology or the because I expressed the view (which happens to be uncontroversial) that voluntary surveys are not scientifically rigorous I must dislike all surveys. I don’t even dislike Consumer Reports on the whole. I’m speaking from my educational background in economics/political science and engineering, and my professional experience in operations
