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Actually all the stuff is power and wheel is leather also leather/cloth mix on seats with Oscar Mike on them, and tinted front windows. Also metal Rubicon front bumper with removable end pieces.
Had 7” screen, but installed 10” Stinger when I upgraded stereo.
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Actually all the stuff is power and wheel is leather also leather/cloth mix on seats with Oscar Mike on them, and tinted front windows. Also metal Rubicon front bumper with removable end pieces.
Yep, my point exactly. A Sport S isn't a trim on its own, just like your Freedom or a Willys. The way jeep has them optioned on the window sticker, they are all Sports. "Sport S" is the 24S package on a sport. "Willys" is the 24W package on a sport. "Freedom" is the 24F package on a sport. Willys Sport is a Sport with 24K added. Sport S is an optional package on top of a Sport, but just plain "Sport", with no codes added, has no power windows or locks. Max Tow is a Sport with AJQ package. Sport S isn't a trim, it's a package. Take a look at a Sport S window sticker. It will say Sport too, just with "24S" added. The freedom includes all of the things from a Sport S, plus more niceties, but it's closer to a vehicle with the 24S package plus some more goodies added. Sport S's are still Sports in the eyes of the order sheet and window sticker.
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The only "trims", according to the window stickers are Sport, Rubicon, Mojave, Overland. Everything else is a package added to one of those.
 
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Yep, my point exactly. A Sport S isn't a trim on its own, just like your Freedom or a Willys. The way jeep has them optioned on the window sticker, they are all Sports. "Sport S" is the 24S package on a sport. "Willys" is the 24W package on a sport. "Freedom" is the 24F package on a sport. Willys Sport is a Sport with 24K added. Sport S is an optional package on top of a Sport, but just plain "Sport", with no codes added, has no power windows or locks. Max Tow is a Sport with AJQ package. Sport S isn't a trim, it's a package. Take a look at a Sport S window sticker. It will say Sport too, just with "24S" added. The freedom includes all of the things from a Sport S, plus more niceties, but it's closer to a vehicle with the 24S package plus some more goodies added. Sport S's are still Sports in the eyes of the order sheet and window sticker.
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The only "trims", according to the window stickers are Sport, Rubicon, Mojave, Overland. Everything else is a package added to one of those.
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Power windows, power locks, and 7 inch screen would make it a sport S. Without those, it's a sport. The "S" is the power stuff, leather wrapped steering wheel, tinted windows, and standard 7 inch screen. The freedom has all the power stuff, so it's an "S"
Those options are an add on Customer Preferred Package 24F to the Sport, as indicated on the window sticker...

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Those options are an add on Customer Preferred Package 24F to the Sport, as indicated on the window sticker...

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Yes, precisely what I'm saying. The 24F (freedom) package includes all of the things the 24S (sport S package) includes. You said the model was based on a sport, not a sport S. I was saying that even a sport S is based on a Sport, because it too is an option package, not a standalone. Nothing is based on a Sport S. Sport S is an option package. 24F is too. It includes all of 24S plus some other stuff too. There is no Sport S Trim. It's a package. And your package includes all of its add ons, so is more closely related to the 24S package than to the unoptioned sport (with no 24S).
 

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The freedom has all the power stuff, so it's an "S"
Yep, my point exactly. A Sport S isn't a trim on its own, just like your Freedom or a Willys. The way jeep has them optioned on the window sticker, they are all Sports. "Sport S" is the 24S package on a sport. "Willys" is the 24W package on a sport. "Freedom" is the 24F package on a sport. Willys Sport is a Sport with 24K added. Sport S is an optional package on top of a Sport, but just plain "Sport", with no codes added, has no power windows or locks. Max Tow is a Sport with AJQ package. Sport S isn't a trim, it's a package. Take a look at a Sport S window sticker. It will say Sport too, just with "24S" added. The freedom includes all of the things from a Sport S, plus more niceties, but it's closer to a vehicle with the 24S package plus some more goodies added. Sport S's are still Sports in the eyes of the order sheet and window sticker.
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The only "trims", according to the window stickers are Sport, Rubicon, Mojave, Overland. Everything else is a package added to one of those.
First you say it's an "S", then you counter that with clarification it is actually a Sport.
Since Sport S is just an add on package, like the Freedom, then the Freedom can't be considered a Sport S, since the Freedom package has added options to the Sport, just like the Sport S has add on options.
 

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First you say it's an "S", then you counter that with clarification it is actually a Sport.
Since Sport S is just an add on package, like the Freedom, then the Freedom can't be considered a Sport S, since the Freedom package has added options to the Sport, just like the Sport S has add on options.
Sigh... I'm just saying 24F includes the 24S stuff. That's all.
 

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I think we agree on what it is at this point...
Yes, I think we're arguing semantics here. I've always considered it a Sport S with more stuff, but that's the way the dealer explained it to me, and it made sense at that time. I was looking at a Willys Sport (explained as a Sport built more for the trails, with Mt tires and rock rails), a Willys (explained as a Sport S version of the Willys Sport), a Freedom (like a Sport S and a Rubicon had a baby), and a Rubicon. I didn't look at the Mojave at the time, because they had none with a manual transmission on the lot, but i would have looked hard at one of they did.
 

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Power windows, power locks, and 7 inch screen would make it a sport S. Without those, it's a sport. The "S" is the power stuff, leather wrapped steering wheel, tinted windows, and standard 7 inch screen. The freedom has all the power stuff, so it's an "S"
In 2019 you could buy a Sport S with max tow and manual windows.........and smaller screen. The 7 was an option as I recall. Then they started changing things so I've lost track over the past year or so.
 

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In 2019 you could buy a Sport S with max tow and manual windows.........and smaller screen. The 7 was an option as I recall. Then they started changing things so I've lost track over the past year or so.
I think it was the Sport with Max tow and manual windows and 5"screen. The 7" came standard with the S.
 

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I think it was the Sport with Max tow and manual windows and 5"screen. The 7" came standard with the S.
How things change - when I ordered, only the S could be had with max tow.
We ended up with overland because the options were extremely limited - no leather, for example, no body color fender or roof, etc.
If I ordered today, I could likely get a max tow that would be very close to the Overland I have now.
But back then it wasn't even close, not at all.
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