Eaton/Detroit TrueTrac instead of locker?

[Blade1668]

I've had and have 3 "trash locks" Trac-Loc in at least 3 Jeeps in rear axles. Oh #$#@ yes there is a difference between them and a open rear diff. My XJ has a Trac-Loc rear and locked front axle with that it was in general a point and go. During the short month of getting the D-44 it's currently has that month of open rear axle was S### on anything but pavement. My JT is a pre Trac-Loc Max-Tow. In driving it several days ago, the computer sensing traction controls didn't figure out how not to just spin the tires with the slight mix of mud, ice, grass, and gravel. Any posi traction device or locker wouldn't have noticed it. . . Yes I'm watching JT Rubicon axles on Ebay too. . .
I about did the "Buy it now" one a few times recently. The FedEx driver is probably still not happy with me.

O.T.
Unless you are regularly or full on off-roading I think about any of the limited slip diffs are good. Or in rear and front locker. I'm opinionated highly. More than a few vehicles, winter experience in Midwest and other places. Open differential is good on dry roads or pavement driven vehicles.
Why I've got a installation kit setting waiting for me to use to install a front OEM locker in my JT. Damn, I miss having a garage... or at least a level concrete driveway / floor to work on. FYI one of my Jeeps has 256000 miles on the factory Trac-Loc and still functional because I've always serviced it, added the Trac-Loc additive and haven't been doing burnouts for no reason.

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[CrazyCooter]

Not true. They operate on a ratio between the 2 tires. The one in the air will spin appx 2.5 times while the one on the ground spins once.

This is not how the 2.5:1 bias works........

I applies 2.5ish times the torque (depending on application)required to spin the slipping tire to the tire with more traction. Apply the brakes and the available torque just got higher.

I agree that they are probably one of the best LSD's on the market for our Jeeps and have been using them for the past 30+ years in all of my rigs.

 

[rubicon4wheeler]

Torsen diffs are the best LSDs out there, and they work great with the addition of traction control like our BLD. But they're still no substitute for a proper 100% locking differential when driving in extreme terrain.

If you don't drive in extreme terrain, you're probably better off overall (generally speaking) with a Torsen than a locker. But Jeeps are designed for extreme terrain, so what are you doing with a Jeep if you're not ever driving in extreme terrain?

 

[MCATDT]

I have been going back and forth about adding an E-locker up front but recently am leaning more towards LSD's front and rear on my Max Tow. I can basically get 2 gear driven LSD's for the price of a single e-locker. I have no intentions of placing a locker on the rear. I have the factory LSD in the rear now and have been very happy with it(gear driven will just be a nice upgrade to replace the clutch driven unit). I am in Florida and trail ride often and really am impressed with what the technology in the JL/JT platform provides the capability to do in these vehicles. I have never felt like I needed a full on locker (mud/slippery conditions have definitely caused issues at times but not sure a locker is really the answer in these situations) and typically what gets me needing a tug is not a lack of traction but the wheelbase length or sometimes just not having enough clearance (new set of 37s has helped this part out some). Many times others wheeling with us in JK's and TJ's are talking about having to use lockers on obstacles that I did not have issues with running on my non-locker equipped Jeep. At some Jeep events they require a single locker to ride the advanced trails and I really follow this rule during events as I don't want to be the person who slows the group up because I didn't follow the rules. All that said I have ridden these same trails during non event functions with my friends at the same location in dry conditions and made it through without drama but not sure if wet or sloppy conditions would make me once again a liability. What are the thoughts on LSD's on both axles running in 4L with sloppy/muddy terrain and lots of off camber.

 

[Smittie]

I'm saving up for the Eaton Truetrak for my '21 Gladiator. Once the budget is in place, I may look at TORQ Locker. However, for the kind of off-roading that I enjoy, TrueTrak has worked well for me in the past.

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