Forget about heated headlights - we need heated wiper blades

[RobbertCole]

What about heating the washer fluid?

https://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com/Winter-Accessories/AlphaTherm-Windshield-Washer-Heater

putting hot liquid on cold glass is a *very* bad idea

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[Bulldog4xfour]

It's one of those things where I just scratch my head and ask....why. Why not, on every vehicle. I mean at least 50% of the nation deals with snow in the winter, or freezing rain. And if they can justify the cost of putting the radio antenna in the glass, why can't they add a strip of heating element for it as well, just like the back glass. I mean, visibility is a pretty critical safety issue that everyone deals with.

My parents had a LR4, the cost to replace that windshield cost an arm and a leg. I'm sure the cost for the 24 jeeps with just the antenna mounted on the windshield will cost more than that, now imagine if it had a heated windshield. People would probably just sell it and buy a new car.

 

[Stan H]

What about heating the washer fluid?

https://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com/Winter-Accessories/AlphaTherm-Windshield-Washer-Heater

Probably would crack the windshield in extreme cold weather .

 

[Rusty PW]

Back in the '80's I believe. Some Ford LTD' had a heated windshield. You could tell by the pink tint. That didn't last last long. Think it had a 2 to 3 year run. They didn't work all that great. To replace the windshield was over $1,200. To replace the special alternator that was required was over $1,200 for it. And no NAPA didn't carry it.....it was a special order from Ford only.

 

[JamesWyatt]

My parents had a LR4, the cost to replace that windshield cost an arm and a leg. I'm sure the cost for the 24 jeeps with just the antenna mounted on the windshield will cost more than that, now imagine if it had a heated windshield. People would probably just sell it and buy a new car.

Land Rover windshields are expensive even without being heated. Besides, insurance pays for it.

 

[MPMB]

Y'all are getting way, way ahead of yourselves.

The MFGS don't need to make more vehicles more winter-weather friendly. Why? Because that means most of these asshats will think they can drive in the snow and ice better than everyone else.

"My car's built for cold weather! Look at my impression of Kimi!!" and that will turn out to be an impression of Paul Walker instead.

It's passive behavior adjustment. Like why rough or pothole-infested roads aren't fixed - people will drive slower.

 

[SargeDiesel]

I've had a Land Rover with heated windshield before, and it was the best thing ever when driving in winter precipitation. No more running the heater on high straight to the windshield and still have ice start building inward from the edges. I'd gladly pay for a heated windshield option on the JT.

Sounds good in theory... but as easy as the windshields crack... it could get expensive quickly.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Y'all are getting way, way ahead of yourselves.

The MFGS don't need to make more vehicles more winter-weather friendly. Why? Because that means most of these asshats will think they can drive in the snow and ice better than everyone else.

"My car's built for cold weather! Look at my impression of Kimi!!" and that will turn out to be an impression of Paul Walker instead.

It's passive behavior adjustment. Like why rough or pothole-infested roads aren't fixed - people will drive slower.

Around here, they install pot holes, I swear.

 

[JamesWyatt]

Sounds good in theory... but as easy as the windshields crack... it could get expensive quickly.

Risk to the insurance company is covered by your premiums. Your deductible stays the same no matter how many claims and no matter the cost. It's not like some health insurance plans where you pay a percentage in addition to a deductible.

 

[SargeDiesel]

Risk to the insurance company is covered by your premiums. Your deductible stays the same no matter how many claims and no matter the cost. It's not like some health insurance plans where you pay a percentage in addition to a deductible.

Of course your deductible wont change , but I'm Not sure I agree with the rest .... a quick search, literally the first thing that popped up.

"Filing an Auto Glass Claim May Impact Your Insurance RateAny time you file an auto insurance claim – even for auto glass repair or replacement – your insurance provider has the option of increasing your rate. While a single claim may not generate a rate spike, several may."

 

[JamesWyatt]

Not sure I agree.... quick search, literally the first thing that popped up.

"Filing an Auto Glass Claim May Impact Your Insurance RateAny time you file an auto insurance claim – even for auto glass repair or replacement – your insurance provider has the option of increasing your rate. While a single claim may not generate a rate spike, several may."

Your rates go up if you have a lot of claims for un-heated windshields, too. I had an LR3 that had to have its heated windshield replaced, and no change to my rates. But any time you have several claims within a certain time period, you risk your rates going up – heated or not.

 

[SargeDiesel]

Your rates go up if you have a lot of claims for un-heated windshields, too. I had an LR3 that had to have its heated windshield replaced, and no change to my rates. But any time you have several claims within a certain time period, you risk your rates going up – heated or not.

Mmm ok.... you just validated my statement.... that was the whole point of my post...

Maybe I misunderstood what you said

"Risk to the insurance company is covered by your premiums. Your deductible stays the same no matter how many claims and no matter the cost. It's not like some health insurance plans where you pay a percentage in addition to a deductible"

You made it sound like windshield claims DO NOT affect your insurance
BUT HERE you contradict yourself and say it does ?‍

"Your rates go up if you have a lot of claims for un-heated windshields, too. I had an LR3 that had to have its heated windshield replaced, and no change to my rates. But any time you have several claims within a certain time period, you risk your rates going up – heated or not."


Anyway, my point stands, replacing heated windshields could get expensive.... I'm not sure of your point... probably because I'm confused... lol

 

[JamesWyatt]

Mmm ok.... you just validated my statement.... that was the whole point of my post...

Maybe I misunderstood what you said

"Risk to the insurance company is covered by your premiums. Your deductible stays the same no matter how many claims and no matter the cost. It's not like some health insurance plans where you pay a percentage in addition to a deductible"

You made it sound like windshield claims DO NOT affect your insurance
BUT HERE you contradict yourself and say it does ?‍

"Your rates go up if you have a lot of claims for un-heated windshields, too. I had an LR3 that had to have its heated windshield replaced, and no change to my rates. But any time you have several claims within a certain time period, you risk your rates going up – heated or not."


Anyway, my point stands, replacing heated windshields could get expensive.... I'm not sure of your point... probably because I'm confused... lol

If your vehicle has a heated windshield and is at high risk for windshield replacement based on history of these vehicles in general, yes your premiums *might* be a bit higher than the same vehicle with a standard windshield. But paying $10 more a month more for insurance is not the same thing as what you proposed as a reason to not want to have one, which was the hypothetical situation of having to sell your vehicle because you can't afford to replace the windshield. My point was a heated windshield is not going to cause you to not be able to afford your vehicle. Insurance premiums are largely based on the MSRP, cost to repair, and risk in general. Granular things like a heated windshield only marginally add to the cost to insure. In fact, getting side airbags added in 2024 to the JTs likely would more than offset any increased premium due to a heated windshield (if there was any in the first place).

 

[SargeDiesel]

If your vehicle has a heated windshield and is at high risk for windshield replacement based on history of these vehicles in general, yes your premiums *might* be a bit higher than the same vehicle with a standard windshield. But paying $10 more a month more for insurance is not the same thing as what you proposed
as a reason to not want to have one, which was the hypothetical situation of having to sell your vehicle because you can't afford to replace the windshield. My point was a heated windshield is not going to cause you to not be able to afford your vehicle. Insurance premiums are largely based on the MSRP, cost to repair, and risk in general. Granular things like a heated windshield only marginally add to the cost to insure. In fact, getting side airbags added in 2024 to the JTs likely would more than offset any increased premium due to a heated windshield (if there was any in the first place).

I think you have me mixed up with someone else.... I never said anything that you assumed or proposed anything.

I only said:
"as easy as the windshields crack... it could get expensive quickly."

* which should ONLY be interpreted as, buying multiple heated windshield could get expensive.

Nothing about premiums, specific dollar amounts and I NEVER proposed a reason not to have a heated windshield.... or anything about affording your Jeep.

Im thinking we either need to start over or just disregard...

 

[JamesWyatt]

I think you have me mixed up with someone else.... I never said anything that you assumed or proposed anything.

I only said:
"as easy as the windshields crack... it could get expensive quickly."

* which should ONLY be interpreted as, buying multiple heated windshield could get expensive.

Nothing about premiums, specific dollar amounts and I NEVER proposed a reason not to have a heated windshield.... or anything about affording your Jeep.

Im thinking we either need to start over or just disregard...

My fault for not paying attention. I confused you with the quote below. I still think it's the repeated nature of the claim that is what will get expensive for you, but we already deal with that. I don't think any premium added to my policy because my vehicle has a heated windshield represents any sort of escalating cost relative to not having one.

My parents had a LR4, the cost to replace that windshield cost an arm and a leg. I'm sure the cost for the 24 jeeps with just the antenna mounted on the windshield will cost more than that, now imagine if it had a heated windshield. People would probably just sell it and buy a new car.

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