Sponsored

Front Springs bowed!!

OHJeeper

Well-Known Member
First Name
Austin
Joined
Oct 27, 2021
Threads
8
Messages
1,248
Reaction score
1,547
Location
Ohio
Website
youtube.com
Vehicle(s)
2022 JTR, '08 JKUX, '08 JKUS
Thank you. I will give this a try.
Doing it with the wheels on really helps when you're doing it solo. You can manipulate the axle forward/backward by hand and it will roll on the tire.

The only thing that might give you trouble is the caster because you're rotating the axle on its axis and the CA's on the other side are fighting that (doing their job!)
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,442
Reaction score
53,859
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
He can also use a ratchet strap to manipulate the axle into position.

I did jack the truck up and put stands under the frame, and set the front axle on small stands so it wasn't hanging down pulling on things. This way it was like being on the ground but my nose and gut cleared the bottom of the truck.

Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! 20220815_144240_HDR
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,442
Reaction score
53,859
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
He can also use a ratchet strap to manipulate the axle into position.

I did jack the truck up and put stands under the frame, and set the front axle on small stands so it wasn't hanging down pulling on things. This way it was like being on the ground but my nose and gut cleared the bottom of the truck.

20220815_144240_HDR.jpg
BTW, folks - if you have a drain in your garage - duct tape over it before disassembling your Jeeps........ just a little tip. I ain't gonna say how I came to decide to do that..........
 

Sponsored

SargeDiesel

Well-Known Member
First Name
michael
Joined
Aug 22, 2021
Threads
25
Messages
1,887
Reaction score
1,449
Location
35173
Vehicle(s)
Jeep Gladiator Rubicon Diesel
Occupation
Retired Military
Hi y’all!

I have a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon with the following mods

- ACOS front bump stops
- Bilstein 5100 Rear shocks
- Terra-flex 3.5” coils with upgraded sway links
- Fox Racing Stabilizer
- RPM 2” aluminum steering kit
- Synergy adjustable Front track bar with relocation bracket
- Synergy Sector Shaft Brace
- Front Upper & Lower Terraflex Alpine adjustable control arms
- Metal cloak correction pads

I am having an issue with the my front springs they are bowing heavily forward (see photos) I just recently installed correction pads & got my truck aligned. My bump stops are now hitting my springs.

Any thoughts?

3241F1DC-C7E7-462E-87FE-93056E9DA446.jpeg


42E4808B-C549-4533-B59E-AD6D4BA11260.jpeg


848DF781-279C-4397-BA08-A8A7F2A79C31.webp


3295D3F8-D69C-4C89-A5F2-B5DC8510DB46.webp
This was an issue with some of the diesels and the Mopar lift... take a look at the isolators.
 
OP
OP
First Name
Shawn
Joined
Feb 13, 2023
Threads
1
Messages
20
Reaction score
6
Location
Austin TX
Vehicle(s)
2020 Gladiator Rubicon
Hey guys, sorry for the late response. I finally had some time to adjust my control arms. Looking for some more feedback from y’all!

Both LCA were correct at 24.50”
Driver UCA was 21 3/4”
Passenger UCA was 21 1/2”

I left the LCA alone and adjusted the UCAs to 20 12/32 per the specs y’all shared with me.

We have a slight improvement. see photos, (passenger side still hits bump stops)

I have still not adjusted away bar links, will do it this weekend. Also, adjusting the control arms took me about 2 hours! Easy project!


Driver side
Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! 2BF69E57-9137-48FB-8220-CA7AF57E6570

Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! EFA8BF99-C0E7-4611-8056-CED75C6AD1C2

Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! 3603D695-B855-401C-A03D-EC3E09250397
Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! 935ABF9A-FE7D-435B-8F03-FBAD35709A7E



passenger side
Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! C2DC3E5E-B864-4D49-A135-527CA87F0E8E

Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! 1EB04717-77F0-4846-8BB5-3974E510CDF2

Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! F1EDA123-AF92-4525-BE0F-CE1ABD8FD85C
Jeep Gladiator Front Springs bowed!! 5F2F80D4-51BC-443D-839F-A7F50BCE35D1
 

OHJeeper

Well-Known Member
First Name
Austin
Joined
Oct 27, 2021
Threads
8
Messages
1,248
Reaction score
1,547
Location
Ohio
Website
youtube.com
Vehicle(s)
2022 JTR, '08 JKUX, '08 JKUS
Maybe it's the pics/angle, but your drivers side looks way different than the passenger side. Did you look at the pinion angle and not just the CA measurement? Did you ensure that the axle is centered under the bump stop?
 

Sponsored

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,442
Reaction score
53,859
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
Arm length should be the same left to right.
Don't see those numbers as set in stone. You need to adjust for YOUR lift, your circumstances, your final height and to get the correct angles.
What's correct on Joe's Jeep may not be right for yours.

If it was me, I'd put a level on the spring pads on the axle and make it level.
I'd use control arm lengths only as starting point suggestions - not what it must be when done.
 
OP
OP
First Name
Shawn
Joined
Feb 13, 2023
Threads
1
Messages
20
Reaction score
6
Location
Austin TX
Vehicle(s)
2020 Gladiator Rubicon
Maybe it's the pics/angle, but your drivers side looks way different than the passenger side. Did you look at the pinion angle and not just the CA measurement? Did you ensure that the axle is centered under the bump stop?
It is was different, the passenger side is was more bowed. visually it looks centered. How do I ensure it is?
 
OP
OP
First Name
Shawn
Joined
Feb 13, 2023
Threads
1
Messages
20
Reaction score
6
Location
Austin TX
Vehicle(s)
2020 Gladiator Rubicon
Arm length should be the same left to right.
Don't see those numbers as set in stone. You need to adjust for YOUR lift, your circumstances, your final height and to get the correct angles.
What's correct on Joe's Jeep may not be right for yours.

If it was me, I'd put a level on the spring pads on the axle and make it level.
I'd use control arm lengths only as starting point suggestions - not what it must be when done.
understood, I wanted to get it per the specs that was shared. Now that I am there we can adjust. By looking at it, I can’t tell if I should be adjusting the upper or lower.

Also, on the passenger side. It looks like it may not be seated properly on the bump stop? I don’t even know if that’s possible, but I may take it apart this weekend.
 

OHJeeper

Well-Known Member
First Name
Austin
Joined
Oct 27, 2021
Threads
8
Messages
1,248
Reaction score
1,547
Location
Ohio
Website
youtube.com
Vehicle(s)
2022 JTR, '08 JKUX, '08 JKUS
It is was different, the passenger side is was more bowed. visually it looks centered. How do I ensure it is?
Well, to be 100%, I would remove the spring and put a floor jack under one side of the axle. Jack it up until the bump stop touches the spring perch - should be center to center.

Maybe others have another idea, but that's the way I've done it before
 

OHJeeper

Well-Known Member
First Name
Austin
Joined
Oct 27, 2021
Threads
8
Messages
1,248
Reaction score
1,547
Location
Ohio
Website
youtube.com
Vehicle(s)
2022 JTR, '08 JKUX, '08 JKUS
understood, I wanted to get it per the specs that was shared. Now that I am there we can adjust. By looking at it, I can’t tell if I should be adjusting the upper or lower.
The rule of thumb I've always used is adjust the UCA to center the axle, then the LCA to adjust caster. You might need to fine tune as you go.
Sponsored

 
 







Top