ScottBeach
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I would argue the gladiator is situationally the best and worst truck. The head on. 15% offset being the bad. I can say from a near miss the auto braking system works amazingly well.
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I wish I could find the pictures of the ZJ donor I got my 4.0 from. It had been flipped and landed on the roof. (the guy missed a T intersection)I constantly am amazed that I'm driving inside a full blown roll cage....it feels pretty safe to me.
Try installing car seats in a 75 Gremlin or a 77 AMX.............. these things are a piece of cake. My son visited with his family and it was sooo easy having 5 of us in there, one of them a kid.Also the 1 star ncap score was because it sucked at pedestrian hits, was not "easy" to install car seats (they should use Britax clicktite) and no lane keep assist.
The actual crash ratings were fine but they didn't like the lack of the ancillaries. Personally I think they had a bit of an axe to grind on it.
He's not talking about history. He's taking about recent crash test ratings. Jeeps generally don't do as well as crossovers or cars.I think a lot of people think modern Jeeps are unsafe because they look similar to old CJs, which were vilified by the old 60 minutes story. Since new jeeps look like CJs, they've never gotten over that rap by many in the general public. But in reality, the wrangler came about to improve upon the safety of the CJ and to make it more civilized. Wranglers and Gladiators still look and function like old CJs and Scramblers, but that's where the similarly ends.
I went from an Overland to Rubicon and my insurance went down $16/month! The Rubicon has active cruise control and blind spot monitoring - I’m pretty sure those features are responsible.When I switched my Wrangler JL to a Gladiator Mohave, my auto insurance premium actually went down a little bit. I don't know what algorithm the insurance companies use, but I am thinking safety maybe one of the factors?
My Overland has all of those things, it's "loaded", so to speak - but as my agent told me, they go by the VIN which tells them exactly what the vehicle has (of course they have the vin, they plug that in and get the complete build sheet with all of the equipment)I went from an Overland to Rubicon and my insurance went down $16/month! The Rubicon has active cruise control and blind spot monitoring - I’m pretty sure those features are responsible.
Gladiators have a good crash rating though.He's not talking about history. He's taking about recent crash test ratings. Jeeps generally don't do as well as crossovers or cars.
And thank you everyone for your input, I think I’m convinced. I’ll sleep on it. If all goes well I’ll place a build order for a Nacho Jeep Gladiator Rubicon tomorrow afteroon and this 2 1/2 year long car shopping nightmare can finally come to an end.
It’s still available in the builder. I’ll be extremely disappointed if it’s no longer available but Billet Silver looks amazing too.
As a Marine Veteran and somebody that has lived a life filled with aggressively pursuing opportunities, here is what I think:This is long, sorry! Feel free to skip to the TLDR.
I’ve been in the market to replace my very boring 2011 Honda CR-V for 2 1/2 years now. I’m getting older and want to treat myself to a vehicle that makes me smile every time I see it. The Wrangler and Gladiator are the only vehicles that do so. Every time I pass one on the road I get excited to an extent that’s pretty ridiculous.
I’d have bought a Jeep when I first started looking 2 1/2 years ago but there’s one thing that held me back. For most of my life when anyone would ask me what I looked for in a car I said I want something that’s safe, has a good sound system, and a lot of cargo space. As you can probably guess the middling safety ratings for the Jeep is what’s held me back.
Not a big deal for me. I’m a safe driver and have never been in an accident. And a questionable safety rating compared to the alternatives wouldn’t be a big deal if I was just talking about my life. But now I have a young kid and I don’t know how to square this in my head. I’d feel personally responsible if my kid was injured or worse in an accident that was made worse because there’s no side curtain airbags in the rear or because there’s a substantial chance of rollover, even in a front offset crash.
So I spent over 2 years looking for some other kind of car, suv, or truck that I could drum up a similar amount of passion for. I checked out the Land Rover Defender, Ford Bronco, and RAM Rebel. I also went in a different direction and looked at some cool new EVs and other crossover to midsize SUVs like the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model Y, Honda Element (lol), and others. At the end of the day, though, I don’t want a ‘nice’ car. I want a ‘fun’ car. And I don’t think there’s anything else that strikes a chord in me like a Jeep does.
Note that my wife has a newer Honda CR-V as well (lol) that we’d be keeping so it would always be available as a safe family car alternative except for when I need to take my kid someone, like daycare.
How does everyone look at this? How do you weigh your pros and cons? Am I overthinking or exaggerating the Wrangler and Gladiator’s safety issues?
And are there any recommended builds that prioritize on-road? Such as steel or plastic bumper: which is safer in a high-speed accident? Any significant difference in on-road between a Sport, Overland, and Rubicon?
And what about improving upon the Jeep’s safety with aftermarket customization. Such as lowering the center of gravity, adding some kind of thick padding around the roll bar and Hard Top where a rear passenger’s head could hit?
Thanks for reading.
TLDR: I’m obsessed with getting a Jeep Wrangler or Gladiator but feel guilty using it as a family car due to its poor crash rating. What should I do?